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Apr 11, 2014 1:31 PM CST
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Name: tarev
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I have this very shady corner in my patio that has been an ongoing project for me, trying to find which plants will thrive, and will not block the sliding door access.

My first option in 2011, I planted Hostas. It works during late Spring to Summer, they thrive well, but my problem is during late fall to winter, it becomes an empty space.

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So I added the next season some spider plants, since the spider plants can withstand our cold and wet winters..however, it is a more aggressive plant, and has gradually overrun my Hostas Sad I need a plant that will have an upward growth too.

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So this Spring 2014..what to do..spider plants thriving quite well as expected:
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For now, I am using this flip flop flower stand..I pulled the spider plant off the main container..I did see some Hosta eyes, oh, so very few..do not know if they will try to come out, but I left them inside the main container. Have no idea what to plant on the upper portion so just using the smaller containers with some succulent clippings..hoping to find something else nice to plant there.
If anyone has suggestions for plants to grow in that shade, would love to hear inputs Big Grin
As much as possible, I would not want to be digging plants every season.. Hilarious!


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Apr 11, 2014 7:08 PM CST
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Name: tarev
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I just made some changes..have removed the metal pinwheel, covered the metal tube opening with this red cap, added a smaller clay container and have put one of my Semp 'Kalinda' and have added a Sedum rubrotinctum cutting on the middle containers..so fingers crossed..hope the plants make it. Big Grin

Sempervivum 'Kalinda'
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Sedum rubrotinctum and Crassula alpestris
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Oscularia caulescens and a noid succulent
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The whole set-up for now:
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Still open for suggestions in case my set-up goes haywire. Smiling
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Apr 14, 2014 10:47 AM CST

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Tarev, I don't have any suggestions but love your creativity.
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Apr 16, 2014 10:15 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Tarev, Thumbs up
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Apr 16, 2014 10:21 AM CST
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Name: tarev
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Thanks Leda and Christine Smiling
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Apr 16, 2014 10:30 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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Tarev, you might want to consider one of the ficus trees, particularly the "Narrow-leaf" ficus, Ficus macellandii. It is what I would consider an almost perfect shade-plant. It is evergreen, does not drop its leaves, grows slowly, and can easily be pruned to make it more compact and to control its size. I have a "Mother" narrow-leaf that is 6-7 years old, and she grows only about 6" each year. I have taken several cuttings from her over the last 5 years, and those rooted cuttings are now nice plants, ranging from 12" tall to 24" tall.
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Apr 16, 2014 11:15 AM CST
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Thanks Ken! I looked up the plant..hmm..may not be able to survive winter outdoors.

The area I have is shaded, but still outdoors.
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Apr 16, 2014 12:12 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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It will take light freezes/light frosts but anything below 28 F will cause leaf damage. It is a tropical tree but not considered a "tender" tropical.
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Apr 16, 2014 1:11 PM CST
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Name: tarev
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Thanks Ken Smiling That corner has hosted before my Dracaena Marginata and also my Sanseveira, and both were near death during winter, that is why I am a bit wary when it says tropical. But maybe I will try it..who knows maybe it will work. Are you selling one by any chance Big Grin
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Apr 16, 2014 2:11 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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Before I send you a Tree-Mail, is it possible to bring in a (small) plant IF it looks like a heavy frost or freeze will occur?
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Apr 16, 2014 2:48 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Apr 16, 2014 3:01 PM CST
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I can bring them in..actually I will observe how that plant will grow. Maybe as long as I keep it in a small container, it will keep small or maybe if I can wrap it to keep warm and then it can continue to stay outdoors, as long as beside our house during winter.
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Apr 16, 2014 3:06 PM CST
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I have a friend that puts her large potted palms on small dollies with wheels and then she can move them easily when it storms or gets cold. You might consider something like that or something slick to put under the pot and drag it. that way you can bring it indoors quickly when you need to.
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Apr 16, 2014 3:16 PM CST
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Name: tarev
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Yup, I do have some of my plants in dollies., helps me a lot during clean-up especially when all the city tree debris litters my yard.
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Apr 16, 2014 7:43 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
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Can you install a hook and put in a hanging plant? There are several hanging plants that grow down and not out.
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Apr 16, 2014 8:23 PM CST
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Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Sadly, hanging plants not an option in that corner..hubby not keen into it...but thanks Cheryl!

In the meantime, I will try that narrow leaf Ficus from Ken..will see how it goes Smiling
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