When Rooting in Water Is Just Not Enough

By mjsponies
February 25, 2015

Lots of plants seem to root well in water. When you pot them up, however, they seem to decline, or fail to grow at all and die.

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Feb 24, 2015 7:28 PM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
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Great tip! Thank you! I tip my hat to you.

Would it be inadvisable to use the nutrition-added Perlite for rooting cuttings, or is it okay for this use?
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Feb 24, 2015 7:31 PM CST
Name: Carol
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Makes perfect sense! I'll have to try that.
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Feb 24, 2015 8:06 PM CST
Name: Anne
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You are so right MJ - It's been my experience that roots formed in water are way more fragile than roots formed with soil because there is no resistance to toughen up the cell walls.
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Feb 24, 2015 9:12 PM CST
Name: mj
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Chelle,
I don't know about a nutrition based Perlite. I just buy Perlite in bulk, both coarse and extra chunky.
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Feb 25, 2015 6:48 AM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
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Thanks MJ,

I was hoping you'd say it doesn't matter either way though, as it seems our local stores won't ever stock any unadulterated Perlite. Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 25, 2015 8:23 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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You are right, Chelle. More and more of the companies that make/market plant products seem to be going that way, and the big-box stores are stoking those products. If you can unadulterated growing media, whether it be perlite, milled sphagnum, or orchid media, you will find what you want from small businesses rather than from the Lowe's/MiracleGro type businesses.
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Feb 25, 2015 9:03 AM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
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So true. I was hoping to find one less item that needed to be special ordered, but I guess this won't be one of them. Since I usually have vermiculite on hand, I may try that instead. Smiling
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Feb 25, 2015 9:25 AM CST
Name: mj
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Chelle, I get mine from Ace Hardware. Ours actually stocks it, but if they happen to be out it's no big deal for them to order it and they give me a call and I run into town to pick it up. I get the big bags also. I use alot of it. I add it to bagged potting mix or my own mix. With all the rain here it's important that anything potted has good drainage.
I know our Lowe's carries the smaller bags, have no idea if it's amped up or not tho. To be honest I didn't even know Perlite was offered in an "Enhanced " form.
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Feb 25, 2015 9:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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Keep in mine, Chelle, perlite and vermiculite are entirely different substances in their uses. If you haven't read the article below, you might want to take a look at it. You can also find it @drdawg.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/d...
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Feb 25, 2015 9:29 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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You want to be careful (and I really don't know how you will actually know this) when purchasing perlite. I don't know why but for some reason a lot of "small-packaged" perlite that is labeling "coarse" is really closer to medium. I highly recommend "coarse" or even "extra-coarse" or what's sometimes labeled "chunky" over the medium stuff.
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Feb 25, 2015 10:03 AM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
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Thanks Mj!

I'm on a first-name basis Whistling with our Ace guys and gals, so I'll check there.



Appreciate the tips, Ken. Thumbs up I like the coarse grades, too.
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Feb 25, 2015 2:36 PM CST
Name: Ric Sanders
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Most Ace's get weekly delivery and are more than happy to order anything they have access to, which is a lot. I use coarse perilite to add to screened, limed, compost for a potting mix. I also use perilite and milled sphagnum for rooting. For hard to start cuttings I use Oasis, the soft foam used for flower arrangements. It is enhanced to keep cut flowers looking better longer and I've had great success starting cutting that easily wilt and falter.
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