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Mar 17, 2015 11:42 PM CST
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Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
I finally managed to find out how to post pictures and I want to show you the beauties I grew from the seeds you sent me when we were still active at DG (where I was 'ursula') . Thank you very much for allowing me to add these pretty Lilies to my garden.


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There are more, but I will have to go through my pictures files to find them. It is posible that the pictures of the white L. martagon, that bloomed for the first time by the end of 2014 are not downloaded to my computer and went with my camera that was stolen last December Sighing!

I also lost seeds on the move from Santiago to my new home at the coutryside (5 years ago) and the most painful loss was here, when free roaming horses and cows destroyed many of my seed trays (have a wire-fence now). Rabbits do their share as well.

I also have other purchased and exchanged Lilies that I will post on another occasion.

Whew! I did not want to post at his forum before being able to thank both of you for the wonderful seeds you sent me: Thank You! very much!

I have been lurking since November and let me tell you I am delighted to realize the super-Lily-experts we have (including both of you)!

Big bear hug,

ursula
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Mar 18, 2015 5:56 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Welcome!

Hi Ursula! Thanks for sharing your seed-raising successes. I hope Leftwood and Buggycrazy stop by soon to see!

Lily growing in Chile sounds so exotic! Lovey dubby
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Mar 18, 2015 9:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Hi Della!

thanks for welcoming me. I am not as experienced as you and so many other ATP members growing Lilies, but expect to learn everything I can about it Big Grin

I remember having seen a few species Lilies as a child in my country (probably Tiger lily and L. regale) and was always attracted to them. The introduction of hybrids (L. orientale and L. asiaticum) started about 20 years ago with cut flowers. Now you can find some bulbs/plants for the regular gardener, but not by the names given by hybridizers (I suppose it is in order not to increase their value by paying for royalty rights Confused ). Since I am 'back on line' (Nov. 2014, after many years) I have identified the names of a few of my Lilies, such as Padhye (sp?), Tango, Matrix, Casablanca, Helvetia, etc).

Liliums are such delightful flowers!
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Mar 18, 2015 10:46 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Ursula! Hello! Welcome!
I remember looking up the ATP member "Ursula" here, hoping it was you, but alas, it was not. I am so glad that you have resurfaced and made yourself known. Hurray!

The success you are having with the lilies is wonderful. We do love them! I have to say, that by participating in several alpine plant forums, plants of South America tend to be the most enigmatic, and difficult to grow for us in the northern hemisphere. There are some exceptions, of course. I am sad, but not embarrassed to say that of the five seed packets you sent me, only Rhodophiala rhodolirion is still with me. But they grow so slow! Still, even that gives me joy.

Great to hear from you!
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Mar 18, 2015 11:22 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thanks for the warm welcome, Rick. I really feel honoured that you remember me after all this time.

Re. growing alpine plants in the Northern Hemisphere - maybe one of the problems you are experiencing with growing our native flora is because (except for our southern part of the country), our soil is very alkaline. I guess that is the problem for me to grow many of the soooo attractive plants that proceed form the other (upper?) half of the world.

I wanted to keep my name when I signed up at ATP, but there was already an 'Ursula' (nothing less than a forum moderator!). That's why I chose the name of one of my favourite native plants, which is pictured in my avatar (Mutisia subulata).

Since I live here (Laguna de Aculeo area), I have not been on seed-hunting tours. There is sooo much to do here, not even counting my responsability with a dog and two cats! However, we do have a few native plants that can be considered alpine (at least rock garden-) plants. Do you have Solenomelus pedunculatus? I don't know how hardy it is, but it is surely lovely (has fleshy roots). This season I have collected gazillions of Potentilla nepalense 'miss Willmott' seeds (native to the Himalaya mountains - should be very hardy). They DO come true from seeds (RHS The Gardener mag. explained it with a technical name I have 'misplaced') and are such prolific bloomers. Let me know if you want these seeds.

Another Lily I have from your or Buggycrazy's seeds is L. longiflorum (no pictures for the reason previously explained).

Be patient with Rodophiala rhodolirion - you will love them once they bloom.

Cheers,

ursula
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Mar 18, 2015 11:28 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Solenomelus pedunculatus
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Mar 18, 2015 11:58 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Never heard of Solenomelus pedunculatus, a nice plant, though. I've have tried several Sisyrinchiums that should be more cold hardy, but haven't gotten them to winter over in my very cold zone, despite their happiness in the summer months. So I don't think Solenomelus would have a chance at all here. I have grown Potentilla Miss Willmott, and am not impressed with the way it behaves here (floppy with poor flower color). But, thanks for the offer. Smiling
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Mar 18, 2015 4:53 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Hello Mutisia Welcome!

I never got to know you from you previous affiliation with this wonderful group; I came later. I'll have lots of questions to ask once you get settled in again on this forum. Hope your lily season is going well--I think we're starting to see the affects of climate change up here. Would you Tree Mail me your city location so I can check your weather? In addition to lilies, I'm also one of those weather geeks. Smiling
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Mar 18, 2015 7:11 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
My second round order from the North American Rock Garden Society came today.... and guess what I received: Mutisia ilicifolia. Big Grin Thumbs up
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Mar 18, 2015 8:57 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thanks for welcoming me Lorn. I really appreciate it! I consider you one of ATP's Lily Gurus I tip my hat to you.

I have T-mailed you. My location is close to a small village called Rangue (we do not even have a Post Office - the nearest is some 30 Km from here). Cell phone communication is a pain. I was offered WiFi from a nearby condo, but had to install an antenna in order to get some hours/day service. I moved here 5 years ago (just 2 weeks before the large earthquake) from the big (noisy) city: Santiago. What I can hear now are birds, foxes, insects, cows and horses, but no cars, no loud neighbours, etc. and the wonderful silence of night.

Lorn, before posting this thread, I read ALL Lily related threads, including 92 pages long thread (at the time) 'What did you do today?'. Therefore, I feel I know you and the other lily-addicts a bit Sticking tongue out
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Mar 18, 2015 9:39 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Rick, let me know if you need some sowing information from my reference book.

M. ilicifolia is another gorgeous Mutisia species. The leaves are 'Ilex-like' and have a tendril at the end. Flowers come in different shades of pink.

When winter comes down to the Southern hemisphere, I will add all my Chilean native flower pictures to the ATP PDB. It's too hot now to sit for long periods at the computer.

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Mar 18, 2015 10:18 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Mutisia said:Rick, let me know if you need some sowing information from my reference book.


I would love to know what your book says. Different sources often have differing information, and are often incomplete. According to what I find, they should germinate at 15-20°C. But they are good sized seed, and I am tempted to plant them... 5mm deep?
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Mar 20, 2015 10:47 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Rick, the information I found is not as precise as you are probably used to find in your books. Please consider that we do not have the many zones/climates you have in the USA and that the regular gardener here does not work with heated mats, lights, etc.

The book recommends stratified sowing in Fall, using a mix of 1 portion compost, 1/2 a portion sand and 1/2 a portion vermiculite. Once the new plantils have 2 true leaves, transplant them to bags, using the same mix as for sowing. It furthermore says that they grow slowly (10 to 15 cm - 4 to 6 inches) during their first year, experimenting a fast growth from the second year on. Blooms are to be expected the 3rd or 4th year. When you plant them in the garden, consider a place that keeps the roots in the shade, but with elements that allow them to climb on (trellis, pergola, trees, etc. or where they can scramble down). The definitive place should have some moisture, and organic soil with good drainage. They can also be planted in rocky places, providing good organic soil. Expect to loose some branches every winter, but do not prune to early, since many will produce new shoots in Spring. Do not overwater.

Hope this info. adds a bit to the one you received from the N.A. Rock Garden Society.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:52 PM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
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Congratulations on your growing success ,Ursula.. They are good looking blooms Thumbs up
lily freaks are not geeks!
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Mar 21, 2015 1:30 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thank you, Anthony. I feel really happy for the warm welcome in this forum.

The Lily from the last picture is a very prolific bulb producer and makes a wonderful display when the plants are in bloom. I have had up to 14 flowers on one stem! And the perfume of L. candidum ......... I wish I could bottle it for cold winter days Lovey dubby I love each and every one of my Lilies! (and the ones you and the other members post too).
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Mar 21, 2015 5:10 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Thanks Ursula. The information does help me.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Mar 21, 2015 6:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Smiling
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Mar 23, 2015 6:35 PM CST
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
A belated welcome also from me, Ursula.

Look forward to your future posts, whether they be lilium related or other.Your candidium flowering stem is a beauty, mine not so floriferous this year, however yesterday I harvested 4 fat seed pods.
Different latitudes, different attitudes
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Mar 23, 2015 6:53 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
And, welcome from me Ursula, I'm not hybridizer grade but love to grow lilies, and take pictures of lilies and their friends.
J
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Mar 23, 2015 7:33 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
Thank you, vanozzi. I love this place and expect to be around as much as possible.

jmorth Group hug thanks! I do remember you from good old times at another place. I'm not a hybridizer either (so far?) but love lilies and flowers in general. There are so many knowleadgeable lily hybridizers here!

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