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Mar 27, 2015 5:09 PM CST
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Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
I just found out that our MOS society has a tax id number so we can purchase wholesale supplies from the local BWI! Woot!

So they were out of the 2CF bags of big bark, so I decided to try the ferti-lome orchid mix.

I really like the look of it. It is big peat chunks, orchid bark, charcoal, and lava rock.

Anyone used it? I'm thinking about adding some sand and sponge rock to it to make my new mix.
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Mar 27, 2015 5:52 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
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Bromeliad Region: Florida Orchids Roses Tropicals Region: United States of America
I might try a bag or two. How much is it?

Jim
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Mar 27, 2015 8:12 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
How large are those bags of Ferti-lome orchid mix, Melissa?
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Mar 28, 2015 12:17 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
They came in 4Qt bags and I had to buy the bundle of 12. Wholesale was $45 total. I believe the suggested retail was $6/bag. It is not big enough for my big pot Cattleyas, but it is perfect for the 4" & 6" pots.

I like it because I don't have to store bulk bags. That is one of the reasons that I had issues with ants and scale...they were getting into the bulk storage of my bark.

I liked the way it mixed with the sand and sponge rock. Now I just have to find some bigger sponge rock. BWI gave me their catalog and I bet they can get it.
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Mar 28, 2015 6:23 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
IF you mean perlite when referring to sponge rock, I found some truly coarse, it is called "chunky", perlite, but it comes in a 4 cf. bag. I have a nice equipment shed and that's where I store a lot of my 2-4 cf. bags of stuff. I store my Douglas fir bark and horticultural charcoal at one end of my orchid greenhouse, under shelves. Because of fans and heaters at that end, I don't put plants on the shelves and thus the bags stay relatively dry.

I would often go though those 12, 4 qt. bags in a couple of hours. I use a lot of orchid mix and every time I get a new batch of orchids, typically 50 at a time, they will all be repotted into 5" mesh-pots. At least most of them will be. A few that are sub-compact/miniature might go in small hanging baskets or 3 3/4" mesh pots. Regardless, that takes a lot of mix! I have 60 new plants that are now in their two-week quarantine, and they will all go into 5" pots at the end of next week.

Bert, remember to get you some sort of storage/equipment shed when you move to Corinth. It will come in handy! Thumbs up
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 28, 2015 6:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
Hi Ken,

Right. I don't get that many at a time. Also, I learned my lesson on re-potting from vendors. I don't re-pot from Marilyn, SVO, Birds, or Marble Branch. Their mixes are already way better than mine and the plants are pristine. I wait until the orchid outgrows their pots.

I do dunk for bugs just in case and now I do a foliar fungicide. So far I've never had an issue with any of their plants. They have become my preferred vendors. Everyone else I re-pot and check for plant health.
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Mar 28, 2015 7:02 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Practically all the plants I get in have outgrown their pots and are in 3 1/2" solid plastic pots. I just like mesh-pots. Each to their own I guess. I have never used any sort of pesticide/fungicide. I simply haven't seen the need. That's not to say I won't do so in the future. My mixes generally have five components. I think they would be labeled "excellent".

Melissa, have you ever used the slow-release pellets, something like Osmocote? I occasional see someone stating that they use this. I go through 20-30 lbs. of Osmocote each year but have never used it with any orchids.
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 28, 2015 9:32 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
Mesh pots are great! Especially for Cattleyas. I use them a lot when I re-pot. I line with coco-husk fibers and then put the orchid and medium in. I like clay pots for my big Dendrobiums like moschatum and the antelope types. They are heavier and more stable. My moschatum is 5' tall.

I bleached all of the pots and baskets last night in preparation for re-potting. I will be purchasing some smaller mesh opening pots this year as the coco-husk fiber seems to attract the soft scale.
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Mar 28, 2015 11:03 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The pots I use have very small holes/slots, and holds the bark mixes well. I have had good success lining some of my pots and baskets with the coconut fiber but when the roots grow into it, it makes it very difficult to separate the roots from the fiber. That's the only downside I have seen using the coconut fiber.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 29, 2015 11:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Melissa
Memphis, TN (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Permaculture Orchids Hummingbirder Hostas
Greenhouse Dog Lover Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Tennessee
I got a lot of re-potting done this weekend! 77 orchids done and 27 more to go. I should be able to finish tomorrow night after work.

I would have finished, but I needed to water and spray the wet wall with fungicide. If the GH dries enough, I may be able to fertilize tomorrow. If too wet, I will fertilize Tues or Wed.

Tomorrow we definitely have to put the reflective shade cloth up, because the direct sun heats the GH too much. I'm thinking that I'll put the 30% up now and wait to see if I will need more.
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Mar 30, 2015 6:19 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I still have the solar blanket material wrapping all three greenhouses. I think we are done with our cold, at least any damaging cold, and will begin to remove that material, and like you, Melissa, the shade cloth will go on the two outside greenhouses. I use 50% and probably could use 70% shade cloth. Once I finally get all my plants outside, under trees, there won't be much in the two "real" greenhouses. That third greenhouse is in the garage and was used just to overwinter my plumeria. Other than the dozens of cuttings, all the other plumeria are now either on the enclosed porch or outside. When I begin to root those cuttings, the garage-greenhouse will be dismantled and stored in the attic till the fall.

I have only one "lid" to make for a 10' caged-in shelf, mounted between two trees. The lids on those cages keep the squirrels away from my orchids. The lid is easy to do. I mounted four new shelves, two 10' and two 6'. I now have eight of them, ranging from 16' x 18" to 6' x 16". Those shelves will enable me to eliminate a lot of the hanging trays/baskets and also should give me some storage for staghorn ferns and fiddle leaf ficus "baby" plants, all in 4" pots. I have about 200 of those (total).

About the only plants that will be left in the "orchid" greenhouse will be the smallest of my orchids, growing from flask. I haven't had much success growing orchids from flask, but I am still trying to salvage at least some of them. Sighing! When I dig up my garlic in May, I will use the "everything else" greenhouse to cure it for two weeks. There will be several hundred garlic bulbs and they will fill the greenhouse. I also use that greenhouse to shade my plumeria cuttings during rooting and use it to start other cuttings and to germinate seeds. Mostly, my two greenhouses, from April till the fall, will be empty.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 30, 2015 6:56 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Sounds more than a full time job to me!! Smiling
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Mar 30, 2015 7:14 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
It is a full-time job, Ursula. I am busier now than when I had my private practice! Sighing! When I retired I quickly found out that I was not good at sitting around, doing nothing. Whistling What's retirement if not doing what you enjoy, regardless whether it involves work or not. Taking time out to chat on ATP is about the only break I get during the spring and summer. ATP is my "power-nap".
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Mar 30, 2015 7:22 AM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
I totally agree, Ken! Thumbs up I just can't see myself getting up in the morning without purpose. I always have something to do, projects to work on! Happily my young 4 Grandchildren play a big part in my life and without the children and my plants/ Greenhouse, Garden and Fish and lots of different knitting, crocheting, felting projects and other stuff / I love to cook, I would be lost.
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Mar 30, 2015 7:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
See, you are just as busy as I am, Ursula. Thumbs up Alas, I will never have grandchildren. I guess my cat, Puff, will have to do, as well as all my plants.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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