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Nov 6, 2015 10:00 PM CST
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Hey guys and gals.
I have a question. Has anyone in the southern states tried to grow any Korth daylilies? They are in zone 4 and I am in zone 8 and was wondering how they might do in such a drastic zone difference. I spent some time looking at their website and found a bit of drool on my shirt afterwards. Just wondering if I should try one or four. What are the chances of them shriveling up and dying by May 1st. Lol.
Bob
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Nov 6, 2015 10:18 PM CST
Name: Boyd Banks
Creston N.C. (Zone 6b)
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You could check the breeding on the parents.They use southern bred daylilies in their program and those should do fine in your zone if they are listed as semi-evergreen.
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Nov 7, 2015 7:44 AM CST
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
Although fancy edges aren't my "thing", I like to display a little bit of everything in my garden for visitors to see as an example of what other people are working on. I love dormant plants so I jumped at the chance to grow Phil's spectacular HAROLD STEEN in my zone 7 garden. I get winter here with snow and ground that freezes so I knew it would do well. Phil sent a wonderful plant with a massive roots system but with that being said, my climate is much different than zone 4, so the plant struggled the first year after planting to adapt to my hot summers. The second year, it kicked in and looked exactly as advertised. It is a fantastic pod setter even when it is hot. But when moving plants from a really cold climate like zone 4 to a zone 8 climate, I would expect dormants to not do well. I'm always puzzled by why folks in cold climates keep trying to grow zone 8 plants when wonderful things are available from Phil Korth that are dormants!!! Phil does grow some evergreens and semi-evergreens, but even those will most likely take awhile to adapt as most plants do that go between many zones. They have to grow completely different root systems.


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Nov 7, 2015 7:47 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Wow, that is one gorgeous flower Thumbs up
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Nov 7, 2015 7:54 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Just checked out Phil Korth's website and he has some mighty nice looking daylilies. I don't currently own any but I may just have to have a couple. Of course, I am downsizing, so I must let go some others in order to make room.
Lighthouse Gardens
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Nov 7, 2015 8:23 AM CST
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
Make sure you click on that photo, I sent and look to the left......as you can see, I lost all restraint (even though that isn't my "look"). I HAVE to make this one bigger and taller so I crossed it with my tall UFs just for fun. There are two other photos in the ATP database taken on different days.....once established, it's quite consistent. And some days during our heatwave, nothing else would set pods. If you order from Phil, you will be wowed by the quality of the plant that he sends. His 2016 intros on now on his page! Lots of eye candy!
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Nov 7, 2015 8:46 AM CST
Name: Steve Todd
Illinois (Zone 5b)
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Boy, Davi....that looks wonderful! The fun you could have with that!

I have many Korth daylilies, and am particularly drawn to his dips. My focus is already fractured, so I must now look away from HAROLD STEEN, look away, look away....
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Nov 7, 2015 8:49 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Goodness, it looks very pod fertile and it is already Sold Out.
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Nov 7, 2015 9:27 AM CST
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
http://www.pinewooddaylilies.c...

The direct link to Phil's new 2016s......one should always buy now and think later!!! LOL
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Nov 7, 2015 12:26 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Michigan - rural (Zone 5a)
Daylilies Garden Art Region: Michigan Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America
Judy, you are such an enabler. I can think of a few Davi intros that would be fun to pair up with this. ;)
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Nov 7, 2015 12:49 PM CST
Name: Mayo
The Netherlands, Europe (Zone 9a)
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TreeClimber said:Judy, you are such an enabler. I can think of a few Davi intros that would be fun to pair up with this. ;)


I agree I agree

To make it easy: http://www.picturetrail.com/da... Lovey dubby
a DL flower a day keeps the doctor away
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Nov 7, 2015 1:17 PM CST
Name: Davi (Judy) Davisson
Sherrills Ford, NC (Zone 7a)
LOL, Kathy.....I'm not sure Phil would agree, but I have in mind making HAROLD STEEN 5 feet tall with a 10" flower!!! Wouldn't THAT be a wowser!!!!
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Nov 7, 2015 1:20 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Michigan - rural (Zone 5a)
Daylilies Garden Art Region: Michigan Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America
Davi said:LOL, Kathy.....I'm not sure Phil would agree, but I have in mind making HAROLD STEEN 5 feet tall with a 10" flower!!! Wouldn't THAT be a wowser!!!!


Put me on the waiting list right now !
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Nov 8, 2015 9:02 PM CST
Name: Larry
Augusta, GA area (Zone 8a)
Daylilies Region: Georgia Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I live near Augusta, GA, and have grown several Korth daylilies and still have three in my garden. The first one I owned was Upon This Rock and did well through two bloom seasons. I set pods on it and grew several seedlings from it. The third bloom season was its best. It had grown to 6 or 8 fans and the only complaint I had was that the flowers lost color intensity the longer the plant bloomed (and as our summer heat continued to increase) although I had noted this the previous seasons, just not as severely as the third year. A few weeks after bloom season, I noticed that one fan was looking a little yellow, and two or three days later the entire clump was dead. I dug it up and found crown rot. I removed the remains from my garden immediately. Although it had been planted in a bed with several other daylilies, none of the others was affected.
A year or two after that, I purchased Cast Your Crown. It has done well here and it blooms and increases every year. This year I divided it and gave about 4 fans to my local club for our annual auction. At about the same time that I bought Cast Your Crown I bought a seedling directly from Phil. It was red with with a toothy gold edge. It was noted as being semi-evergreen, but did not perform very well in zone 4. Once I planted it, it was very happy and bloomed well the first year. The first few blooms looked like the picture which was used on the web site, but subsequent blooms started fading out until all remaining blooms were a golden yellow with a red eye and edge. I contacted Phil to ask if he had an explanation for this behavior and he said that one of the parents of this seedling was a seedling from Upon This Rock which he said had exhibited the fading problem I noticed. I acknowledged that I had grown Upon This Rock and had also observed fading on the sepals with that daylily. I accepted that this would be an "eye and edge" daylily here in Georgia and it has continued to grown well.
Since then I have purchased two additional seedlings directly from Phil. One is a near black that looks just like its picture. It has grown acceptably, though I would not say that it has thrived. At the same time, I do grow several other near black daylilies and only one or two of them grow as well in my garden as daylilies of other colors. The second seedling was said to be rose, but has bloomed two years here as lavender. I don't know if this is based on the climate here in Georgia or the difference in soil, fertilization, etc., between my garden and his. This year, this particular seedling was one of the most prolific bloomers in my garden and set many pods. I have it planted next to Karol Emmerich's Heartbeat of Heaven and bloom for bloom, I think this one may be the prettier bloom. I will have to see what it offers to seedlings.
All in all, I would recommend Korth daylilies to other gardeners in my area although I might choose to start with a semi-evergreen rather than a dormant.
Hope this helps,
Larry

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Nov 8, 2015 9:49 PM CST
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Thanks for the all the info. Larry we are pretty close so I think I will try the SEV or EVG. Just got to have a few.
Bob
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