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Apr 9, 2016 1:46 PM CST
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Name: Ann
northcentral OK (Zone 6b)
You all are so knowledgeable about Iris. I'm hoping you don't mind my picking your brains.
So far this spring I've lost 7 stalks to something.
I've looked online and haven't found any pictures of disease or critters that look similar to my problem.
There is no sign of chewing or boring. Just dryness at the break.
This has been happening when the buds are about to emerge from the leaf part of the stalk so the branch is somewhat heavy, falls over and breaks off.
Anyone have any ideas.? Thank you for your help! Ann
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Apr 9, 2016 2:01 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
It appears , from the third pic, that they are 'growing crooked" before the break....is that correct? If so, can you get of one 'just bent', and 'not broke'?
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Apr 9, 2016 2:23 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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I've been having the what I think is the same problem. I'm pretty sure some were not bent too. I think of it as stalk 'blasting' because that's what it looks like. The one I took pictures of was bent. I found several like that early in the season but am not finding them now so I suspect it might be weather related. I had never seen this before this year.


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Apr 9, 2016 2:25 PM CST
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Name: Ann
northcentral OK (Zone 6b)
The last one I found was only half broken. I "finished it off" but found no evidence of any bug or other indication for the problem. It is a very clean break. I hope I find no more but if I do I will take a picture of it half-way gone.
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Apr 9, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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The one's I found were still partially attached too. Some more that others. The one in the photo was only hanging on by a thread. No evidence of being eaten...believe me, I know what the ones eaten by snails look like! Sticking tongue out I think the curling outward at the break happens as the stalk begins to dry after whatever causes the break...but it sure looks like there was a little explosion in those stalks! Hilarious!
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Apr 9, 2016 3:25 PM CST
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I get a few of those every year. I've always assumed it's damage from cold weather, but don't know for certain.
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Apr 9, 2016 6:23 PM CST
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Name: Ann
northcentral OK (Zone 6b)
Thank you to all of you. I feel better now that I'm not dealing with a disease of some sort. I just hope I don't lose any more. Most of the blooms that are gone were on Half Dollar which is one of my favorites.
I appreciate you! Ann
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Apr 9, 2016 6:40 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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Come to think of it I think they were all on one cultivar. It may be a weakness in certain cultivars. I'll have to watch for that in the future and see if it's the same plant/s over and over. That 's a trait I would not want to pass on! It's sad to lose several blooms stalks on the same plant.
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Apr 9, 2016 7:58 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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In my experience, broken stalks like that are caused by wind. The stalk is top-heavy with a bud(s) and the stalks have lots of moisture -- and a strong wind will snap them right in half. Shrug!
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Apr 9, 2016 7:59 PM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
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In my experience, broken stalks like that are caused by wind. The stalk is top-heavy with a bud(s) and the stalks have lots of moisture -- and a strong wind will snap them right in half. Shrug! The tip-off is the clean break -- no chewed edges....................
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Apr 10, 2016 12:32 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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I hadn't though of that Mary Ann! We did have some wind a while back. But it's interesting that only one cultivar had that tendency to break. More information to ponder... Thanks!
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Apr 10, 2016 7:46 AM CST
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
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Here is one of my 'problem' stalks. Pretty bent. And you guys think maybe it's the wind? We also had two cold nights.

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Apr 10, 2016 7:53 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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I think it's damage from the cold
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I get some of those, early season, as well.
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Apr 10, 2016 7:55 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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When we have really strong winds I get some bending of the stalks. But others sort of tend to grow that way, especially toward the light. Is that iris in full sun? If it is shady some of the day it may be bending toward the sunlight.

I had my first stalk break cleanly off this year. I figured it was from the wind.
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Apr 10, 2016 8:00 AM CST
Name: Susan
Keenesburg, Colorado (Zone 5a)
Last year when we had the severe cold snap the second week of May many of my surviving stalks were very disfigured so to speak: bowed and bent. I assumed it was the cold weather.
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Apr 10, 2016 8:32 AM CST
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
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Unseasonably cold period during active stalk formation would be my guess. When it occurs here I can get some like snakes - bending back and forth in s formations and some call the goose necks. If the iris is not getting enough sun all of the fans will grow at an angle to get more sun. That will be easy to spot.
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Apr 10, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Central California (Zone 9b)
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There are some cultivars that seem to grow that way too. Rick pointed one out to me at the garden last week.

I don't have the problems with the severe cold weather here...but there may be multiple causes. I had had lots of them bend over, especially this year, but I don't remember seeing any with that odd breaking pattern. The more I think about it the more I think they snapped for some reason and as the ends dried they curled outward as though the outer 'skin' tissue dried faster and shrank more than the inner tissue.
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Apr 10, 2016 9:29 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Luckily we have not had that problem so far.
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Apr 10, 2016 10:23 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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There was a discussion on "Pineappling" Chuck Chapman's FB page. Basically he calls it an imbalance of plant signaling and is involved with the start of growth combined with having appropriate amount of chilling. Plants have a "computer" system for flowering, with a number of genes that are involved in sensing the environment and promoting growth.. He goes on to say that it's a fine balance that can get disrupted when there are conflicting signals (grow vs not yet!) when weather conditions are not normal.

I don't know if this is what is causing your problem, but I've noticed a lot of wacky behavior in my Iris beds this year.


I'd like to know just what the heck is going on here..
I've got a couple that are doing this.. The rhizomes feel firm... They are both established clumps... I did pry off a rhizome or two to share from both this past year. I like to think I'm pretty careful when I do this.. but I'm trying to find commonalities between the two... They are in completely different areas of the garden with different types soil. Confused
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Apr 11, 2016 2:46 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I too have had some stalks that have just broken off for no reason that I know of other then they look as though the exploded. Every year I have some, and not necessarily on the same plant. Have no idea why.
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