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Apr 26, 2015 9:13 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Why would tulips change from white to yellow, peach and then red after dividing every two years. It is the bulb increase that is being transplanted, not seedling bulbs. How does this happen?
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Apr 27, 2015 7:43 AM CST
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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Some tulip varieties have been bred to exhibit a change of colour.
I think that this is done by infecting them with a virus.
The one that I have had was called Antoinette.

Which variety were yours?
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Apr 27, 2015 8:03 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I don't know, they belong to a friend. She planted white tulips, the only tulips she has. After two years she divided them, the next year when they bloomed they all turned yellow. Each two years she divides them, and the following year they change color again. They have not gone back to the white coloring since this started happening. Some are now red, and others a lovely yellow with peach tones.
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Apr 27, 2015 10:44 AM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Sounds like for whatever reason they are producing increasing levels of anthocyanin. If there is any color breaking/streaking of color the bulbs should be dug and discarded in the trash.
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Apr 27, 2015 11:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Thank you Connie. I will pass this information on. They have morphed to a dark red with cream colored petal edges.
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Apr 27, 2015 11:41 AM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I can't say that what I said is scientifically correct. Would love to see photos, especially the latest morph. Can you ask what the name of the original tulip is?
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Apr 27, 2015 2:35 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I sent a message and asked her to post the photos. Thumbs up
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Apr 27, 2015 3:38 PM CST
Montana (Zone 5a)
The original bulbs bloomed white, I dug them up and separated them and they bloomed yellow, every other year since I have dug them up and separated bulbs, they are now adding red tips and red stripes and now some actually are red with yellow edges. No other tulips have been bedded here with these. The red ones are even differently shaped.
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Apr 27, 2015 3:52 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Hi Montanatulip. Welcome! to ATP.
Hope we can determine the scientific reason for the color changes happening in your tulips.
Are the red ones the newest change?
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Apr 27, 2015 3:59 PM CST
Montana (Zone 5a)
Yes, they are the newest kind
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Apr 27, 2015 4:02 PM CST
Montana (Zone 5a)
I do not know the name of the first tulips, they were planted at one of our rentals nearby and left there, I separated them and brought bulbs home so I too could have some white tulips, funny thing, that never happened, however, I do enjoy them all.
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Apr 27, 2015 4:03 PM CST
Montana (Zone 5a)
Gotta love those blond curls girl!
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Apr 27, 2015 4:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
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Does it look like the red one is less robust than the earlier colors?
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Apr 27, 2015 4:07 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Rolling on the floor laughing
We cross posted.
It will be interesting to see if it progresses to this stage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
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Apr 27, 2015 4:29 PM CST
Montana (Zone 5a)
Yes, in the world of tulips I would call it a "little" tulip. Look at the veining on this one. Too bad if I find out they are just sick. Here, I thought they had character.
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Apr 27, 2015 4:42 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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The red ones do look puny and sick. I suspect virus. Lets check with Lefty and see what he thinks @Leftwood ...
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Apr 27, 2015 5:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Yes, that is why I asked about the red one. It does look puny. It will be interesting to see what Lefty says.
It does look like it might be a virus. Sad
If it is, other than getting rid of them, can you plant new varieties in the same place? Or is the soil now infected?
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Apr 27, 2015 8:35 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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The first three pics show variation that I could understand, due to varying climate conditions different from the original source, and/or from year to year. This could be with or without virus. I don't see any evidence virus (and unlikely in pic#4, too), but sometimes it doesn't show, and virus symptoms in tulips are very tricky, too. Really, I may be better than many of you, but I am a novice with tulip viruses.

Other possibilities:
---- I see in the pic#2, other tulips. Rodents sometimes dig up bulbs and move them to somewhere else.
---- Also in pic#2, please to look closely at the red tulip at the left edge of the photo. It seems exactly as pic#4, that you say is the new aberration. Can you explain?
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Apr 27, 2015 8:55 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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The red tulip in pic #2 appears to be same plant as in #4. Look closely at the rocks in the background... they are the same, including the four smaller ones leading into the rock "cave". Just a view from a different angle in my opinion.
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Apr 27, 2015 9:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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All are divisions from the original white tulips purchased and planted. Over the years when divided and replanted they have come up in the different colors. The red being the newest.

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