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May 21, 2012 5:36 PM CST
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I bet they have a lot of snow up there and they stay too wet. Thank God we don't get much snow here. I would be wrecking constantly!
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May 21, 2012 5:41 PM CST
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Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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I am very close to zone 5. On top of the mountain in between 3 lakes so get lots of wind. So conditions are harsher then most zone 6 areas. As far as Oranges and Lemons has it overwintered for anyone. Have seen a few comments about it not making it.
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May 21, 2012 5:45 PM CST
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Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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This was the first year that we did not. Most years snow covered from Jan till spring. But last year was very wet with over 90 inches of rain.
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May 21, 2012 6:06 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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New Question, How big are the slugs? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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May 21, 2012 6:33 PM CST
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Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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I get them but not that bad.
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May 21, 2012 6:35 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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That's good news, I was talking to somebody from Washington State and she fed one four inches long to her chickens this morning. She said they fought over it. Yuck. Blinking
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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May 21, 2012 6:38 PM CST
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Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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I stepped on one of those suckers before and I never will forget how gross that felt on my toes. YIKES! Grumbling Group hug
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May 21, 2012 8:45 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Thumbs down Thumbs down Thumbs down We need to ask Dave for an emoticon for "UCKYYYYY" LOL
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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May 22, 2012 3:19 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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For sure!! Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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May 22, 2012 4:22 AM CST
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Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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I am not sure they could make an emoticon that would capture that feeling! Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 22, 2012 4:26 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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Some how I doubt it. Thumbs up Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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May 22, 2012 4:28 AM CST
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Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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I wish they could come up with an emoticon for my reaction to Japanese beetles on a rose. I tend to get very angry when they show up.
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May 22, 2012 5:09 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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They already have one for that! Grumbling Grumbling Grumbling
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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May 22, 2012 6:54 AM CST
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Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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LOL. That looks like me yesterday!
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May 22, 2012 11:37 AM CST
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Name: Betty
MN zone 4b
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We do indeed get snow up here but it is not often consistent thru the winter we lose the snow and have freeze/thaw cycles. The bed I plan on putting them in is raised and has a bit of gravel mixed in the soil which gives excellent drainage. There are already some rudbeckias, a white daisy unsure of what it is, some coneflowers and daylilies which all do fine over winter. By the way the soil in this bed is usually on the dry side.
If you want to be happy for a lifetime plant a garden!
Faith is the postage stamp on our prayers!
Betty MN Zone4 AHS member

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May 22, 2012 12:57 PM CST
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Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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Sounds good to me. Save seeds to and you'll be set.
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May 22, 2012 1:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
MN zone 4b
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I will save seeds just in case they need to be reseeded. I have on their way Arizona Sun, Oranges & Lemons and Tokajer so at least I will have a variety.
If you want to be happy for a lifetime plant a garden!
Faith is the postage stamp on our prayers!
Betty MN Zone4 AHS member

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May 22, 2012 1:21 PM CST
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Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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Awesome. I have been getting seeds from Swallowtail Seeds. They have a good selection.
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May 22, 2012 8:06 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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I like Swallowtail, too.

Karen
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May 23, 2012 4:58 AM CST
central Illinois
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I started Gallardia from seed last year; it did overwinter, but winter last wasn't much of a winter here.
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