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Jun 10, 2012 8:32 PM CST
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Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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I don't know what the birds and bees have been up to...............or is hybridizing the culprit?
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Jun 13, 2012 6:42 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Years ago, I had a green coneflower. It always bloomed green. Never had any other issues. I posted about it on gardenweb, and contacted Tony Avent of Plant Delights. He said it was a case of Aster Yellows disease. Well, a few years later, hybridizers started coming out with all these new colors of echinacea, and one of them was green like my plant!
Don't know if yours has aster yellows or not. What is the name of that echinacea? Is it supposed to have petals on top? Like Doppelganger?
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Jun 13, 2012 7:09 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Looks like a new hybrid double decker coneflower. Green Grin! Dosn't really look sick.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 13, 2012 10:05 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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I think that is asters yellow. where is clint, he would know for sure.
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Jun 13, 2012 10:48 AM CST
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Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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I agree
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Jun 13, 2012 10:59 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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Definitely looks like aster yellows. Bad news. Google it, Anna. Probably best to remove and destroy the plant. Trash it, don't compost it. And carefully watch any others you might have.
http://www.mobot.org/gardening...

Karen
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Jun 13, 2012 11:49 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Oh. Sad Wow, looks like you are right, should have looked it up. It just didn't look like a sick plant to me! I will email Clint and read the following while we wait. *Blush*

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Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 13, 2012 12:11 PM CST
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Name: Clint Brown
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Dig it out ASAP. Insects can spread it to your other plants.
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Jun 13, 2012 12:52 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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So what should we be focused on, if we want to prevent this?
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 13, 2012 12:55 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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I'm not sure you can really prevent it. But it is spread by leafhoppers.

Karen
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Jun 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Oh, it said something about weeds when I was reading the article:
#4,
Remove weeds in your lawn, garden, and surrounding areas, including plantain and dandelion that may harbor the disease.
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 14, 2012 8:20 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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The disease is related to Rose Rosette Disease. You really don't want that one. I have lost 12 roses to that disease.
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Jun 14, 2012 10:03 AM CST
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Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN (Zone 7b)
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I have an article about keeping this disease down. I have had good results doing the things in the article.

http://cubits.org/echinaceas/a...

The leafhopper is our enemy. I hate those things! Group hug
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Jun 14, 2012 11:24 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Yuck!! Sad Well it's good mine are in pots and getting ready for a neat and clean flower bed. Green Grin! Hoping to keep it weed free. Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 23, 2012 3:00 PM CST
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Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
Thankyou for your ID and information. I didn't remember that I had posted it here since I usually stay on Texas Gardening and kept looking there and finally reposted. You guys are awesome. Thumbs up I did end up removing them. I am not sure about the bug b gone b/c of my dogs and eliminating beneficial insects. I guess I have to be better about weeding.
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Jul 15, 2012 2:42 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Is this also asters yellow? The plant is 'Green Jewel'.
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Jul 15, 2012 4:16 AM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
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I don't think so, but wait for a second opinion. Could be mites, how bout browsing the coneflower forum?

http://cubits.org/echinaceas/t...
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jul 15, 2012 4:42 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I'm not so sure, either. I think eventually the cones develop those weird little tufts of green that grow up like flowers on flowers. I'd watch it for a while I think. At least until you're sure.
http://cubits.org/echinaceas/a...

Karen
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Jul 15, 2012 5:54 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Just the petals seemed deformed on this one. It also has normal flowers on the same plant.
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Jul 15, 2012 6:11 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
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Shrug!

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