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Bulbs forum: Foxtail Lily- Eremurus - Do you grow it?

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Name: Julia
Upstate NY (Zone 6a)
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JuliaNY
Oct 18, 2012 10:44 AM CST
I haven't found too much information on this bulb. If anyone has some information from your personal experience growing them, I'd appreciate reading about them. Most of what I've seen is from sellers versus actual gardeners who have grown this.
Hardiness, increase rate, does the foliage die back after blooming, do and don'ts when growing these.

Many thanks for any information you can provide.
Julia
Upstate NY
Zone 6
Name: Patti
Nantucket or Vt
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bbrookrd
Oct 18, 2012 6:15 PM CST
I have had moderate success with them. They come as a big spidery looking bulb and if they arrive dry or brittle, they didn't work for me. Take care in planting them. I planted them in several spots and the ones that were successful and have returned have been in a bed that gets full sun on the east side of our home in sandy soil that drains quickly. They didn't come back in a bed that didn't have as good of drainage. I have tried a couple of cultivars. Orange Marmalade and Cleopatra have both bloomed and returned. Fingers crossed for next year. Shot one taken on June 7 2012, shot 2 taken on May 28, 2012. Patti
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Name: Julia
Upstate NY (Zone 6a)
Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: New York Hummingbirder Seed Starter
Vegetable Grower I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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JuliaNY
Oct 19, 2012 6:20 AM CST
Thank you Patti for the info and the tip about the bulb/roots. From your post it would seem the oranges are more reliable to return.
Were the ones you ordered dutch bulb import or the US variety? I just read something on Brent and Becky's which made me ask the
question.


Julia
Upstate NY
Zone 6
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Bulbs Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: California Vegetable Grower
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soilsandup
Oct 20, 2012 10:09 PM CST
I bought a bag from Costco last year - I think there was 6 roots. I gave 3 away, and planted 3. I did not have any luck - none grew. If the rest of you have success with it, then I'll try again since I do really like the plant. I don't mind planting things twice, but I give up after that. I
Name: Patti
Nantucket or Vt
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
bbrookrd
Oct 21, 2012 4:02 PM CST
soilsandup , Unless the rootstock is fresh which I kind of doubt the ones from Costco are, I doubt that they would make it, but maybe you would have some luck.

JuliaNY here is where I got the ones I had the best luck with so far.
sale 3 EREMURUS RUITER HYB CLEOPATRA 1x3 (3) for $5.25 Van Engelen
sale 5 Eremurus 'Orange Marmelade' $20.00 sale (5) for 10.00 large flowered and tall; dark orange and real 'traffic stopper'! 4'-5'. Brent and Becky
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
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bearsearch
Oct 21, 2012 7:09 PM CST
I've had a few for a number of years now and they return year after year if given the conditions they require. I have one in a raised cactus bed that has grown like crazy and 5 in the front and another in a mound at the side of my yard. They need to be plump and healthy looking for the best success, shrivelled dry roots won't grow in my experiences with them. They need at least 6 hours of sun and fast draining soil especially in the winter is a must. Don't plant them too deep either, the top of the central disc needs to be at or just below the surface of the soil. Give their roots some space to radiate out from the center. The foliage does die back after blooming and I remove the seed pods and cut the stem back a bit so they don't waste energy or stick out like a sore thumb as they die back. The first picture is from a couple years ago of the plant in the cactus bed and the next picture is of the cactus bed when I first built and planted it. Good luck!

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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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CarolineScott
Oct 21, 2012 7:42 PM CST
Soak the roots in dilute soluble fertilizer overnight.
They do better with good drainage.
I had one come back three years,but it did not flower this past season.
I have a white one which gave flowers this past season. (The first summer).
Do not plant too deep---the crown should be only 2 or 3 inches below soil surface.
They do not like winter wet, so plant on a slope or where you know the water does not sit.

The dried up roots will not grow.
Find nice plump clusters which have a visible, cream, growth at the crown.

I am pushing the zones on this plant in zone 3.
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
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soilsandup
Oct 22, 2012 12:38 AM CST
I kind of remembered that the Costco roots looked ok and had a good growing point on it. But, since I don't have a point of reference for it since I have never seen any other ones before, they may not be as fresh. I will try again with a different source. Glad they do well for you, Caroline and Brian.
Name: Julia
Upstate NY (Zone 6a)
Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: New York Hummingbirder Seed Starter
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JuliaNY
Oct 22, 2012 10:11 AM CST
All the comments are appreciated and seems like success is limited in growing these.
I did check out Brent and Becky's and also Van Engelen as suggested to see what they had and pricing.

Julia
Upstate NY
Zone 6
Name: Susan Bryant
Dandridge, TN
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lakesidecallas
Nov 6, 2012 8:56 PM CST
If I remember right the best time to buy them is in the fall, you'll get plump bulbs that way. The ones left over until spring tend to be dry.
Name: Julia
Upstate NY (Zone 6a)
Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: New York Hummingbirder Seed Starter
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JuliaNY
Nov 7, 2012 5:04 PM CST
I would definitely like to get some but had to stop all planting and since I couldn't count on the sellers to ship right away, I backed off. But I found all the information helpful for next year. I just love how they have the long spikes of flowers.

Julia
Upstate NY
Zone 6
Name: Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
growitall
Nov 9, 2012 8:51 PM CST
CarolineScott said:Soak the roots in dilute soluble fertilizer overnight.
They do better with good drainage.
I had one come back three years,but it did not flower this past season.
I have a white one which gave flowers this past season. (The first summer).
Do not plant too deep---the crown should be only 2 or 3 inches below soil surface.
They do not like winter wet, so plant on a slope or where you know the water does not sit.

The dried up roots will not grow.
Find nice plump clusters which have a visible, cream, growth at the crown.

I am pushing the zones on this plant in zone 3.

I don't really think we're pushing the zone with growing Eremurus here, Caroline - I just think the zone info that's usually quoted is hooey! Big Grin
Rix and Phillips in the book "Bulbs" show some great photos of Eremurus in the wild... I suspect the harsh environments to which they are adapted give the secret (if there is one) to the conditions they need - cold is not a problem but they definitely need drainage, as you noted.

I agree with all you've said, other than that I've never bothered soaking the roots. (Also, I've never found roots for sale that were actually breaking dormancy. As long as the roots were clearly not dried out, I figured that was as good as it gets these days. The first ones I bought were potted, so no guesswork there! Unfortunately, it seems the supply of interesting potted perennials has kind of dried up around here since then.
I've had E. stenophyllus growing from a planting that predates 2004 - unfortunately, the area has become shaded and I do find it problematic to move these plants due to the rather brittle roots, so this old plant doesn't bloom any more, unfortunately.
As was mentioned, these plants go dormant after blooming - foliage even starts to die off during blooming - so don't be alarmed.

I kicked myself when I broke off the emerging shoot of E. himalaicus while weeding a couple of year's ago. I saw no sign of it that year but it did emerge the following year and bloomed nicely.

The packaged roots seem to be coming more commonly available around here so hopefully more people will grow them - I think our conditions (dry, good drainage) seem to suit them pretty well!
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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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CarolineScott
Nov 10, 2012 6:29 AM CST
Thanks for the encouraging comments.
I wonder about the zone info, and I think that often some plants are not rated for zone 3
because they have not been grown here.

Some years ago I had planted an Eremurus and by spring forgot that I had.
In the spring I found this odd looking plant and tore it out and placed it with the weed compost.
A few weeks later I found the same plant at the garden center---priced at $89.---
Name: Calin
Oradea - ROMANIA (Zone 6b)
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fixpix
Nov 12, 2012 1:40 AM CST
Back in 2009 I fell in love with these, and bought 2 roots I think.
Check what they looked like.
I had no idea dried roots = dead plant
It looked like ONE still had some life in them.

I remember I planted them, kinda shallow, I could still see the "little things" but the never showed any green.
I think I also made the mistake of frequent watering!!!

Here's what they looked like
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Since then, I never bought roots but tried seeds... had very few seeds sprouting but I transplanted when really small and they died :(

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