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Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 6:42 AM CST
Trying to add this plant and system said 'Not Valid Genus' ?


It appears that this genus is not valid. If you are certain that it is a valid genus, please post a message to the Plants Admins requesting that it be added. In the message, please let them know all the fields you entered.

Important: Don't add quotes around the names. The system will add those automatically when appropriate.


Confused

Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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Jan 28, 2013 7:23 AM CST

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Are you certain you spelled it correctly, Susan? There are several Iochromas in the database already:

http://allthingsplants.com/plants/browse/plants/genus/Iochro...
Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 8:25 AM CST
lochroma cyanea is a hybrid of lochroma cyaneum. Every website I go to says something different. I am finding conflicting information everywhere I go. Here is a comment I found on DG, only thing that makes sense so far:

[quote from DG]
This plant is a product of the Athens Select programme at UGA. Although the Athens Select website is slightly ambiguous as to the name, the correct name is Iochroma cyaneum 'Purple Queen' rather than 'Royal Queen'. It is similar to but distinct from the USDA recognised cultivar Iochroma cyaneum 'Indigo'. [end quote from DG]

This has got to be it, this is in the ATP data base, (Iochroma cyaneum). There are several hybrids but could you just add 'Purple Queen' , not Royal Queen as I suggested. I purchased it under the name Royal Queen, but Purple Queen might be the trade name. Some call it Royal Purple Queen but I am confused, even Proven Winners is confused because they think it is an annual. They call it Royal Queen Purple!!

ZUZU said something about multiple entries in the data base but this one is really called lochroma and there are several different hybrids including, Royal Blue, Plum Beauty, Wine Red, and Sky King. Are you confused, join the club!

http://www.provenwinners.com/plants/iochroma/royal-queen-pur...

But Purple Queen is not in data base either?..Also called Royal Purple Queen? Confused

http://msucares.com/news/print/sgnews/sg09/sg090723.html
http://www.athensselect.com/POP_files/IochromaRoyalQueenPurp...
http://www.thelittleroundtable.com/2012/11/iochroma-cyanea.h...

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Could you just add, Iochroma cyaneum 'Purple Queen' Green Grin!
I can sort out the fact sheets later.

Thank You! Susan
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eclayne
Jan 28, 2013 9:10 AM CST

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I don't find genus Lochroma on the COL, Plant List, Grin, Tropicos, ITTIS, IPNI, or WCSPF. Ooops, spelled wrong. iochroma.
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Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 9:22 AM CST
Good grief!! Angry They can't spell their own plant??? http://www.athensselect.com/POP_files/IochromaRoyalQueenPurp...
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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Jan 28, 2013 9:41 AM CST

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I added it as Iochroma 'Purple Queen': Iochroma (Iochroma cyaneum 'Purple Queen')

You can fix it when you get the proper names sorted out.
Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 10:50 AM CST
Hurray! I tip my hat to you.

THANKS!!
Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 11:00 AM CST
OH,... can you change the common name to 'Iochroma' , It's poping up under 'Violet tube flower' Confused

I think it should be the same as this one only the cultivar is 'Purple Queen'

Iochroma (Iochroma cyaneum 'Plum Beauty')

Thanks! Green Grin!
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Calif_Sue
Jan 28, 2013 11:41 AM CST

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According to Proven Winners, that's the common name of it. http://www.provenwinners.com/plants/iochroma/royal-queen-pur...
Iochroma can be an additional common name.
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Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 12:29 PM CST
Well, if you browse by genus, none of the others have that. They all have lochroma for the common name. Go figure. Is 'Violet tube flower' the trade name? I think PW is the only place that mentions that name, I thought they made it up?

Just one more question, why is the Orchid Forum showing under this plant?



No problem. I tip my hat to you.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 28, 2013 1:31 PM CST

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Susan, I think your original confusion was due to the font used on that website and this one. This font shows no difference between a small "l" and a capital "i," so you probably thought the name of the genus was Lochroma. The name of a genus has to begin with a capital letter, however, so Iochroma begins with an "i," not an "l."

As for the common name you prefer, you can propose a name edit, adding Iochroma as a common name, and give that name a thumbs-up. After you refresh the page, the one with the thumbs-up should be the one showing.
Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 1:45 PM CST
Ok, thanks!! I will do that. Green Grin!
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Calif_Sue
Jan 28, 2013 1:48 PM CST

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Half of the Iochroma list shows the same as the common name, half don't. http://allthingsplants.com/plants/browse/plants/genus/Iochro...
I suppose PW chose that as a descriptive common name.

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eclayne
Jan 28, 2013 2:08 PM CST

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Sue, it's under Related Threads: "Show Us Your Garden 7" where there's a post about Iochroma.
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Name: Sue
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Calif_Sue
Jan 28, 2013 2:38 PM CST

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Ahh, I see it now under Kent's post and link! Thumbs up
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Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 4:30 PM CST
I meant the ones for 'Iochroma cyaneum'

This is the fact sheet from the grower. (link) Funny thing is that 'Proven Winner' is not listed as a grower or propagator or seller. And PW seems to be a separate thing. I cannot explain it except that maybe it is a different plant. Maybe PW has a plant called 'Violet Tubeflower' but Athens Select' does not.

http://www.athensselect.com/ASGrower_IochromaPurpleQueen.htm...
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 28, 2013 4:46 PM CST

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Tubeflower or Tube Flower is a common name for Iochroma, but Violet Tubeflower probably applies only to the Royal Queen Purple cultivar.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=iochrom...
Name: Susan
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virginiarose
Jan 28, 2013 5:49 PM CST
Tubeflower was only mentioned under Proven Winners. There was no mention of it in the database till it was added today. But my plant is not a Proven Winner. It's an Athens Select. None of the other websites or vendors ever mentioned Tubeflower, only PW.
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valleylynn
Jan 28, 2013 6:10 PM CST

http://eol.org/pages/5101220/names/common_names
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iochroma
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=iocy
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Name: Zuzu
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Jan 28, 2013 6:28 PM CST

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I gave you a link to my Google search, showing lots of websites using that name, Susan.

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