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Name: Betsy
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piksihk
Jul 10, 2013 9:01 AM CST
What is going on here? What's causing it to look like that? Confused
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 10, 2013 9:48 AM CST
See if any of this info helps. How does the rest of the plant look?
The thread "Echinacea question" in Perennials forum
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purpleinopp
Jul 10, 2013 12:47 PM CST
I had that thought also, aster yellows.
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Name: Bob
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NJBob
Jul 10, 2013 4:54 PM CST

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If it is get rid of plant right away.
Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Jul 11, 2013 7:11 PM CST

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It's definitely aster yellows. Rudbeckias are the worst for getting that. I used to grow them with my Echinaceas, but I stopped because they kept getting that disease and I didn't want to risk my expensive Echinaceas!
Name: Jennifer
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jvdubb
Jul 12, 2013 7:15 AM CST
So wow, I've been in the dark. I googled echinacea aster yellows and turns out my plants have had this for years. I just thought the deformities were just something quirky about Echinaceas. It never seemed that bad, most of the plant seemed healthy. Just some deformed blooms. But, then I thought back and I did have some that got sickly. I dug them up and put them in the "nursery". Some made it, some didn't. Those that recovered I planted out again.

After reading this last night and more on Google I sadly decided to cull the plants showing signs, even though some only had two or three buds/blooms and were otherwise gorgeous. This morning I dug out 10 beauties. I tried to console myself with the usual, "Its an opportunity for a new plant!" or give surrounding plants some more room to expand. Still I'm bummed. Sad

Part of me debated keeping the plants. I tried to rationalize that disease is always going to be part of a garden and the aster yellows weren't that devastating, especially since I've had it around for years! And actually I'm second guessing removing all of them time to time this morning.

But its done and I have to move on. But now I'm seriously reconsidering buying any more echinaceas.
Name: Jennifer
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jvdubb
Jul 12, 2013 7:54 AM CST
Upon further reading now I'm not sure! Maybe it was just mites Confused
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 12, 2013 10:11 AM CST
Jennifer
Go here as well and read. http://cubits.org/echinaceas/ Clint is quit an expert on Echies this is his cubits.
Name: Jennifer
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jvdubb
Jul 12, 2013 10:26 AM CST
I went there. Couldn't find definitive evidence. Since the plants were perfectly healthy and just the blooms jacked up I'm sure it was just mites. Maybe I can pull some out of trash when I get home
Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jul 12, 2013 5:10 PM CST
Jennifer, good luck with that! I also got rid of my Rudbeckias, why take a chance. Plus they are too invasive here. Thumbs down
Name: Jennifer
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jvdubb
Jul 12, 2013 5:39 PM CST
When I got home I pulled them out of the trash. Cut all of them back and potted them up. All of them had healthy normal leaves. But at the same time I didn't see any mites either. So confused but I'm going to go with my gut. I'll replant out in the fall.
Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jul 13, 2013 3:04 AM CST
If it is mites you can just cut off the flower heads for now, but when they go dormant remove the dead stalks, and dispose or burn, because some parasitic mites will over winter in the dead stalks. (Eriophyid Mites)

The thread "Look at this!?" in Perennials forum
Name: Clint Brown
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clintbrown
Jul 13, 2013 8:44 AM CST

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You can't see the mites that cause similar damage without a microscope.
Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Jul 13, 2013 4:11 PM CST
Sorry!! Wrong link. *Blush*

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/pests-purple-coneflowers-23931....
Name: Jennifer
MI (Zone 6b)
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jvdubb
Jul 13, 2013 4:47 PM CST
Thanks Susan. Thumbs up
Name: virginiarose
Southeastern Virginia (Zone 8a)
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virginiarose
Jul 13, 2013 5:09 PM CST
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