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Jan 15, 2014 5:47 PM CST
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Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
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I am getting ready to build my first greenhouse. I am a researcher by blood, but not by trade.

When I put in our first pond I kept reading, "the bigger the better because you will want a bigger one if not big enough" . Though I found this statement to be true in a short time, the area where our first pond sits could only house a small size pond. Two more larger size ponds later, I think I am satisfied. I also read, "do not put your pond under a tree", for obvious reasons. That was disheartening since I have a small back yard full of mature trees. Then I found one source that said only in Texas can you put your pond under a tree. So we did! Guess what we deal with every fall? hahahahaa Rolling on the floor laughing

OK. Back to greenhouses. I think determining size is the same for greenhouses. Get the largest you can since plants 1) do not stay small and, 2) you will underestimate your greenhouse needs almost always. Learning from my ponds, I got the biggest one that could fit in our yard. I read over and over again about overflow of plants into other sheltered places outside of the greenhouse, shelving not large enough, needing more places for hanging plants etc. Already I am thinking the largest unbuilt, GH for my yard is not large enough and have contemplated a large hoop house over the entire back half of the yard. Wouldn't the HOA have fun with that one?!

But upon further research I have found, that gardeners are a greedy sort, about space, anyway. If there is space, they will plant it in, compost in it, build on it, use it. ALL of it! You could have the largest greenhouse in the world on the property and if you are a bonafide, dedicated gardener that greenhouse will be filled from stem to stern, top to bottom, every nook, and every cranny in good time.

Sorry to report, further research finds there is no cure for this. Some have bumped out walls and constructed greenhouse additions. Others have build a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th greenhouse. No matter. In time, it will not prove to be enough space for plants, seed trays, planting starts, and all the things gardeners do within greenhouses. Greenhouses, though we say are for the protection and growth of plants, only feed the gardener's insatiable need to keep things green.
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Jan 15, 2014 7:56 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
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Well said.

I didn't research much for mine, I got the biggest one I could afford, 10x20, because I KNEW I would outgrow whatever I got, and here it is, one year into it and I have already outgrown it. Too many plants over wintering. Right now there's not a bit of space for seedlings. But as it gets closer to the time to put them in the GH I will find room somehow! Or build a hoophouse against the house as I have in the past, make a temporary cold frame, anything to protect the plants. Good thing I don't have a HOA here! Hilarious!
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Jan 15, 2014 8:22 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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My inclination is to always go BIG! As big as I can go. And that tendency gets me in trouble because I almost always bite off more than I can chew.

Back in 2001 I wanted a greenhouse and after building a few, first out of PVC and later out of lumber, I decided to go all out and buy a greenhouse kit. We researched and ended up buying a 30'x50' monster. It was huge and a sight to behold. The problem was, because it was so gigantic, it was also difficult to heat. During an extreme freeze event our NG heater light went out and we ended up losing a bunch of our plants and were so disappointed. But we never got even close to filling that greenhouse up and I doubt we ever would have.

So when I recently decided to get back into the greenhouse mode, I decided to start again with something more small and manageable. Smiling

Pictures of our greenhouse from 2001:

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Jan 15, 2014 8:48 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA (Zone 8a)
Greenhouse Region: Georgia Garden Sages Organic Gardener Beekeeper Vegetable Grower
Seed Starter Cut Flowers Composter Keeper of Poultry Keeps Goats Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Holy Cow! A thing of beauty. Drooling Drooling Hard to believe you couldn't fill it! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Believe me, if I could have afforded it, I would have gone bigger. But really, I'm in a subdivision so I really don't have that big of a lot.

I imagine you will find the new greenhouse a bit cramped but much more managable. And it's so pretty with those cedar tables. I love the in ground bed as well. I did the same thing, but no cedar planks. Until this last really cold night I still had a tomato thriving, but it's toast now! Rather, icicles! Hilarious!
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Jan 15, 2014 10:44 PM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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WOW! 30x50 I could put almost the whole veggie garden in that with my GH. I don't need any ideas here Dave. Drooling Drooling Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 15, 2014 10:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
30 x 50?! -- rubbing my hands together-- Just give me a couple seasons with that one!! Ohhhhhhh! Yeah, Babyyy!!
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Jan 17, 2014 3:10 PM CST
Name: mj
Central Florida
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ShadyGreenThumb said:30 x 50?! -- rubbing my hands together-- Just give me a couple seasons with that one!! Ohhhhhhh! Yeah, Babyyy!!


Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing yeah, that would be me too ! Even living here in Florida, I keep finding things that wouldn't survive even our mildest freezes that I think I simply MUST have.....ya know how it is, right ? !
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