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Sep 26, 2014 10:35 AM CST
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I would love to see how your Fame Monstrose is doing. Please share your experience with how stable this odd leave growth is.

Mine came in 2011, and had the most wonderfully odd shaped leaves. This lasted until the following year when all the offsets came with normal shaped leaves. Even the original Monstrose leafed original rosettes reverted to normal leaf shape by 2013, without producing any Monstrose rosettes.

July 2011


June 2012, notice that all of the offsets have normal leaves.


This last spring I was going to remove all of them from my collection. I was no longer interested in them. So glad I didn't get around to doing the removal. Look what is peaking out from the surrounding rosettes. Wish I could understand what conditions cause the distorted leaves to form?
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Sep 26, 2014 11:56 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Most unusual. I have Fame so maybe I will get an odd one. Also have 'Grigg's Surprise' but not 'Fame Montrose' A beautiful semp and what a nice surprise for you Lynn. Raining like crazy here today so not pictures unless it lets up some.
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Sep 26, 2014 12:27 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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It rained like crazy here Wed. and Thurs. Today is breaks with beautiful blue skies. The semps are loving it.
I have 'Fame' also, so far it has never produced the thickened leaves. But it sure is a gorgeous semp.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:14 AM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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I keep waiting for my Fame to 'montrose' up!! Thus far, only fame! Rolling on the floor laughing I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 27, 2014 10:30 AM CST
Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Sep 27, 2014 12:05 PM CST

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Often, the young, normal looking Fame Monstrose rosettes will convert to the monstrose form as they mature. Also, some rosettes that look normal even when mature will produce monstrose offsets. It seems to me that many of them will alternate generations between normal and monstrose form. I'm "casually" working to isolate a possible line of monstrose rosettes that do not alternate or revert, but so far nothing consistent to report. I'm moving 2nd gen monstrose rosettes from monstrose hens to a separate location to see if eventually I'll end up with consistent monstrose rosettes. This is one of my favorites.
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Sep 27, 2014 12:51 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Now that is an interesting study twit. I will follow your example. I will isolate this rosette and any others I find in this colony. I will work on this colony today.

This offsets is coming from one of the original rosettes that reverted to normal leaves in 2012. I also have a small colony of Fame, in another bed, that has not produced anything but normal offsets.
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Sep 27, 2014 6:33 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

My 'Fame Monstrose' has gone all normal but half of my normal 'Fame' has gone monstrose! If I get a bloomstalk on it I'm going to self pollinate to see what comes from that. Hopefully something more monstrose.

Kevin
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Sep 27, 2014 7:58 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Now that would be interesting to see what comes from that. I should go out and do a check on my Fame, to see if it is maybe doing something odd.
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Sep 27, 2014 9:45 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Lynn I received my plants from you, but they were part of the reverted ones - I just went into the database and removed my name from having "Fame montrose" since I really only have 'Fame' (also had to change one of the group photo thingy's, because the semp in it was listed as fame montrose, but it was only Fame...there ya go, that's my story!! I looked very carefully today to see if I could find any montrosum on my Fame, sadly only normal ones!! Thumbs up
Twit your idea is a good one!
Kevin, yep I'd love to see those babies! I tip my hat to you. Although its possible that they'd look similar to "old Warty" @springcolor - Julia would love that! nodding Rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2014 11:03 PM CST
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@JungleShadows.
Kevin, she we have two separate entries for these plants? Or should it be just one?
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Sep 28, 2014 8:18 AM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

I think two is appropriate as there is a monstrose form that has been marketed as such even though it does revert. The original plant was NOT monstrose. 'Fuzzy Wuzzy' was weird from day one *and was introduced as "forming crests and double rosettes) even though there are some that are more normal-looking.

Kevin
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Sep 28, 2014 8:30 AM CST
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Thank you Kevin.
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Sep 28, 2014 3:30 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Good to know! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you. Lynn love your avatar!
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Sep 28, 2014 3:50 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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I don't have Fame Monstrose but I sure am enjoying this thread. I see we have a new sempy word (verb)... "to monstrose" Hilarious! Whistling

It almost sounds like a dance craze, as in "Do the Monstrose". I'm just not sure what that would look like though...

I guess I have just spent my few minute break on this. Rolling on the floor laughing . I'm spending this sunny day dividing and replanting many semps. Blue Boy has moved out of the Cowboy Hat and I'm still in the process of deciding who will move into the empty "apartment" since the hat has a ways to go before it has rotted away.
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Sep 28, 2014 4:03 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Rolling on the floor laughing Connie your cowboy hat is good I hope you plant something wonderful in it! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 28, 2014 4:11 PM CST
Name: Connie
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I decided to put some small Pacific Blue Ice semplings in it. They are very small so there will be room for them to grow. Thumbs up
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Sep 28, 2014 4:24 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Sounds pretty! I just got that one from Patty this spring, and noticed the cool blue fall coloration!! Thumbs up
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Sep 28, 2014 5:56 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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The 'Monstrose Mash'. You would have to twist yourself into some kind of contortions. Green Grin!
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Sep 28, 2014 8:28 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing That's funny Lynn! Sticking tongue out

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