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Apr 30, 2015 5:07 PM CST
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Name: Karen
Minnesota (Zone 4a)
Garden Art Region: Minnesota Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level
I purchased this plant two years ago because I wanted something that would be vigorous, and then I heard it wasn't so great. This will be its third year and it only has one main stem. Should I discard it and get something new, and what would you suggest.
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May 3, 2015 6:45 AM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
I don't know specifically about suberba. I have the regularJackmanii and it is vigorous.
Type 3 Clematis like to be cut back to about 12"in the early spring. Probably not too late to do in your area.Give some fertilizer and a drink of diluted epsom salts monthly too. If planted on an angle sometimes can get more stems. If you have done all these things and it is still doesn't meet your expectations, you can always plant another clem right beside it , even in the same large hole.
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May 3, 2015 8:29 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Our Jackmanii's are superb but they are not Jackmanii Superba. One grows so lush I have to cut it back a few times each summer.
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May 3, 2015 9:36 AM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
WOW!
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May 3, 2015 9:42 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
It backs up to one of the compost bins and that's why it's so lush.
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May 3, 2015 12:05 PM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
do you currently have it in conditions that it doesn't like...? I would think two years would be a great start for establishing a good root system. the upper part of the stems should be in full sun and the roots need to be kept cool, by other plants or a fence or something. we use hostas planted around the base of our superba to keep its roots cool. we also fertilize ours with diluted organic 5-1-1 fish emulsion. its EXCELLENT for putting on growth prior to blooming. we also work in alfalfa meal into the surrounding soil once it starts putting on new growth. We've had our "Superba" not even two years now and its light years above and beyond any clematis ive ever owned! growth is so vigorous and the stems have already reached the top of the trellis its growing on and its about to take over! not that thats a bad thing, the more vigorous the better, the more flowers the better!! im just saying its not going to leave much room on top of the fence for the two other clematis plants (Henri & Gravetye Beauty) trying to catch up! ha

the pic below was taken on July 2nd of last year. it had only been in the ground 18 months at the time!
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May 3, 2015 12:09 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
Good fertilizing advice. Yours looks SUPERB!
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May 3, 2015 12:12 PM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Thumbs up I agree Hurray! Thank You! Rolling my eyes.
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May 3, 2015 3:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Karen
Minnesota (Zone 4a)
Garden Art Region: Minnesota Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Master Level
What a fabulous picture, Jason. Everything is so lush looking. How about more pictures of your gardens so I can be really jealous!!!

Yes to all those things about my J. Superba. One of the gals from the nursery where I bought is a Master Gardener, and she said hers did the same thing. Of the three people that she knew purchased it, only one had good luck. I am warning it that this is its last chance, so we will see!!!
Happiness is doing for those who cannot do for themselves.
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May 3, 2015 3:22 PM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
Warning it??? ha, I like that! threaten it with some horsetail or something, that may help! don't know what to say about your bad luck with your superba. maybe purchase another one, see what happens with it; and keep this one going along with it...? I must say I couldn't be happier with mine. who knows, maybe this will be your lucky year!

pics of my other gardens can be seen here: The thread "Gold Bar, Washignton. Our Yard..." in Garden Photos forum
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May 3, 2015 8:40 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
riverman, are you blessed with wonderful Washington weather? That might be the difference.
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May 5, 2015 4:46 AM CST
Name: Jason
Gold Bar, Washington (Zone 8b)
thanks!

sometimes its wonderful, on occasion, like on saturday. its actually pretty mild, as in, we don't have too many extremes. at least not on the west side. I think the difference however is we just try to grow stuff that's suited for our environment.
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May 5, 2015 9:28 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
Yes, zone envy can be costly!
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May 15, 2015 8:49 AM CST
Name: Betsy
Texas (Zone 9a)
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May 15, 2015 10:28 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Clematis I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Texas Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1
I never see deals like that! You knew what to look for
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May 16, 2015 8:12 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I agree! I was at Lowe's yesterday and their sale items were pathetic but a good buy for those who can nurse them back to health.
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