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May 4, 2015 3:01 PM CST
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Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
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I went to the nursery last week and got a voucher for a Butterfly Bush replacement, I just had to take in a picture and
show them, the guy at the counter said yup, it looks dead. So I got a voucher...I went today to see if they came in and the
woman behind the counter told me that they did not come in and mine likely has not broke dormancy and another week
or two of warm weather and the fact I pruned it way down will instigate it to grow, she said that is what Butterfly
Bushs do. I had one before and do not recall it looking dear, just all brown twigs. At any rate we had left it in the ground
because we decided to leave it be until we get the replacement. Do you think it will come back?
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May 6, 2015 7:01 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Here's a pic I took on 4/20/2002 when I lived in OH, also Z5b. They're late starters, but I'm pessimistic about your plant at this point.
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When did you trim yours? The usual rule for BB's is to leave them alone until new leaves appear in the spring, then shape as desired.
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May 6, 2015 7:20 AM CST
Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I have given up on Butterfly Bushes. They just don't do anything for me, they die over the winter. Crepe myrtles will not make a real appearance here until the first of June which is too late for my tastes. I also don't have long term luck with azaleas. They live for a few years and bloom, but then die off. They never really grow and get large like they do in warmer areas. Some things just don't prefer the cold winters, the winter moisture and spring sogginess I guess.
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May 6, 2015 7:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Nebraska Hummingbirder Houseplants Critters Allowed Container Gardener
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1
purpleinopp said:Here's a pic I took on 4/20/2002 when I lived in OH, also Z5b. They're late starters, but I'm pessimistic about your plant at this point.
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When did you trim yours? The usual rule for BB's is to leave them alone until new leaves appear in the spring, then shape as desired.



I am in doubt it will come back, it was last May when we bought it and it had leafs at least, this is May again and just twigs and brown branches.
I just trimmed in this week end, and there are zero leafs. I have had one in the past for 4 years and it came back every spring.
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May 6, 2015 7:39 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Try scratching the bark with your fingernails or some sharp tool. If you don't see green tissue, you do have a dead Butterfly Bush.
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May 6, 2015 7:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Nebraska Hummingbirder Houseplants Critters Allowed Container Gardener
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pirl said:Try scratching the bark with your fingernails or some sharp tool. If you don't see green tissue, you do have a dead Butterfly Bush.


We did, no green. So sad, it was gorgeous and growing great last spring.....not something I want to have to replace
every spring, so we will try it again. If it does not make it I will try some other type of butterfly attracter.
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May 6, 2015 8:34 PM CST
Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6b)
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The one I have usually takes till almost June to start going.
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May 7, 2015 7:31 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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They are prone to dying suddenly, mysteriously, so having just 1 can be disappointing. I used to think it was an edge-of-hardiness thing in OH, but they do it here near FL border too.

Since they propagate *so* easily, it shouldn't be a major concern. Get a few going, then if 1 dies, it doesn't mean you have none. Putting a nice pile of leaves over after the leaves fall off for winter can help a lot too.

I strongly recommend finding a sterile cultivar. The one I have has never produced a seedling, and has been moved via cuttings around central OH a few times, then to AL, in my yard & my Mom's yard. About 20 yrs. It's something I do every summer, stick cuttings of BB wherever it might be nice to have another one.
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May 7, 2015 7:35 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Good idea!
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May 7, 2015 6:44 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Nebraska Hummingbirder Houseplants Critters Allowed Container Gardener
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Purpleinopp, terrific plan, I started many a Forenthia just that same way......am I right?, take cuttings and pin the
limb to the ground to root?
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May 9, 2015 11:39 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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I usually use a stick or screwdriver to make a hole, then stick the cutting in the ground. Sitting a lawn chair over for the first week or 2 can help them get going a little easier if it's already hot & sunny.
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The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The 2nd best time is now. (-Unknown)
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Jul 20, 2015 8:00 PM CST

Hi I'm new and the butterfly fly bush is my favorite. I am trying to learn as much as possible about them.
I have two in my front yard and while they don't look like they are dying, the bottoms don't look very "full". They are 3 years old and are currently about 10 feet tall. It's July and I live in Tennessee. We've had barely any rain, but I water enough, and I don't think I overdo it.
The rest of the bush looks great with lots of new blooms and shoots. Is it normal for the bottom of the bush to start to not become as full as the summer goes on?
Any info or help would be super! Thanks!
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Jul 20, 2015 8:43 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Welcome, Supershervelle!

The bottom of mine seldom match the growth at the top. How far do you prune them in Feb./March? Down to a foot tall?
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Jul 20, 2015 9:02 PM CST

Hi. Thanks for the response!
Yes I dis prune them to about a foot at the end of February. Last year I did the same and they were unbelievable, but I don't remember if this happened or not. Guess it's Just a little curiosity .

This year I've added 12 more to my garden. Different colors and sizes. I recently found yellow honeycomb butterfly bushes and ordered them. I'm excited for those!
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Jul 20, 2015 9:18 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
You'll love them! Here it's a butterfly magnet by August. Have fun taking photos and remember to add the photos of each Butterfly Bush to the database and get acorns as a bonus!

You can put annuals or potted plants around the bottoms for a more lush look, if you wish. Coleus would be one good choice though there are many plants available to hide the bare bottoms. Here's the entry for Honeycomb and even the photo taken at the Botanical Gardens shows the bottom is bare - no problem at all. Butterfly Bush (Buddleja 'Honeycomb')
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