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Dec 3, 2015 11:18 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
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For this? Welwitschia mirabilis



From the first time I saw this plant Drooling , I have been fascinated with it. Strange, weird, odd, alien are some of the words used to describe it. It grows in only a very small area in western Africa and some plants are over 1,000 years old.

I have toyed around with the idea of growing it cause it is such an oddity - hey it only has 2 leaves. nodding For two years now I have thought about it, but seeds are rarely available. I say - yeah, go for it and the only source I was aware of is Sold Out. I just love the challenge of growing things from seed. Particularly hard, strange, different, odd things, out of zone, etc.

And yeah - I know if I did get it to grow my wife would say "what the heck were you thinking?"
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Dec 4, 2015 4:05 AM CST
Name: Patti
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Given your fascination with this curious little plant, I say go for it.

If I were going to spend $2.00/seed though, and the plant can live to be 1000 years old (how do they know that?), I would want to have someone lined up to take over when I was no longer able to care for it. Maybe it should be someone other than your wife. nodding Naw, I'm sure by now she knows how you are...a man in love with plants. Smiling
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Dec 4, 2015 6:45 AM CST
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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Sounds like a lot fun for only $2 a seed.
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Dec 4, 2015 8:43 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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frankrichards16 said:Sounds like a lot fun for only $2 a seed.


I agree

Unless it takes 100 years or so for the seeds to sprout... Hilarious!
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Dec 4, 2015 9:13 AM CST
Name: Patti
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Weedwhacker said:

I agree

Unless it takes 100 years or so for the seeds to sprout... Hilarious!



Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Dec 4, 2015 9:52 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
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Shrug! I was looking for support. Or condolescenes Blinking

Big Grin

I did note that there is at least one other ATP member who has this plant.
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Dec 4, 2015 11:40 AM CST
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
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Because of the rarity of it, and the fact you really like it, yes then $2 a seed is justified to me.
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Dec 5, 2015 9:39 AM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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Your plant may produce blooms in as little as 5 - 7 years...hen you can be the one charging the big buck$ for your seed. Thumbs up Good luck, hope you find the seeds and post tons of photos. Hurray!

Here are some sources for seed:

https://b-and-t-world-seeds.co...

http://www.sunshine-seeds.de/W...

http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/p...

http://www.lithops.net/welwits...
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Dec 5, 2015 11:01 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
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Thanks for all the links.

Prob is I need a male and a female to make seed. My wife only has so much patience.

There is a guy here -- Mike something who has one, but he has not posted in over a year. Maybe I should mail him.
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Dec 5, 2015 11:22 AM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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David Sunshine seeds has a good price, 5 seeds for 3 Euro which is only about $3.27 US. 4 packs would give you 20 seeds for about $13.00 plus between $8.00 and $13.00 shipping depending on the method you choose. Even with the $13.00 dollar shipping you would only be paying about a $1.30 per seed and with 20 seeds you are bound to get a male and female.
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Dec 5, 2015 11:31 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
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Thanks Jay!! I tip my hat to you.

Good grief those shipping rates are outrageous - but aren't they all now a days. I recently bought 7 packs of seed from Parks and the shipping fee was 7 $ on a $22 order. Grumbling
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Dec 5, 2015 11:33 AM CST
Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Tip Photographer Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Hibiscus
DavidLMO said:Thanks Jay!! I tip my hat to you.

Good grief those shipping rates are outrageous - but aren't they all now a days. I recently bought 7 packs of seed from Parks and the shipping fee was 7 $ on a $22 order. Grumbling


Sunshine Seeds is in Germany so I don't think the price is so bad for shipping to the US.
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Dec 6, 2015 1:15 AM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
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I have read that some plants that people want to pollinate from another that blooms at a different time, they freeze or refrigerate the pollen until needed. Maybe you could trade something with another ATPer for pollen, kind of like artificial insemination of cattle ;-) That way you only need one plant to make seeds.
What will you do with it once it grows, it looks like a beached giant squid (not being snarky, when I looked at the photos and descriptions I started wanting one too)?
We are all such enablers.
You could also start a co-op to buy those seeds. I had fun the other day making a list of all the seeds I wanted from Plant world Seeds. It came to $150! I guess I better pare the list down a bit.
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Dec 6, 2015 6:52 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: David Laderoute
Zone 5B/6 - NW MO (Zone 5b)
Ignoring Zones altogether
Seed Starter Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 1
Pistil said:I have read that some plants that people want to pollinate from another that blooms at a different time, they freeze or refrigerate the pollen until needed. Maybe you could trade something with another ATPer for pollen, kind of like artificial insemination of cattle ;-) That way you only need one plant to make seeds..


HHmmm clever Mary [ @Pistil ] Apparently only one person here has this plant (even though others have posted pics of it). Maybe I can get his attention. @johnsonm08 ... Mike ... Since you have this plant, could I get your input to my whacky idea to try to grow this? You are one full zone colder than me. nodding Am I crazy? ]

Pistil said:What will you do with it once it grows, it looks like a beached giant squid (not being snarky, when I looked at the photos and descriptions I started wanting one too)?


You know that is like asking someone who buys a plant --- where you gonna plant it? Many (most?) probably have no clue. Big Grin I don't most of the time. But then again -- you ARE probably right. When it gets GREAT big --- who in heck would want it? FYI - I hate disposing of a plant and believe it or not, not once in 40 years have I tossed a plant that I tired of. See how sick I am? Green Grin! I would though imagine every Botany dept at every school in the USA would accept the plant as a donation. Rolling on the floor laughing


Pistil said:We are all such enablers. You could also start a co-op to buy those seeds. I had fun the other day making a list of all the seeds I wanted from Plant world Seeds. It came to $150! I guess I better pare the list down a bit.


Heh. Turning ME loose at the Plant World website is like the kid in the candy store. But this idea is not something I had thought of. Whistling

Thanks everyone for all the input. I am in a quandary even moire so now.
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Dec 6, 2015 6:54 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Let's not even go there with the issue of acquiring plants and then not knowing where to plant them.... Rolling my eyes.
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Dec 6, 2015 10:45 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
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Out of curiosity, I checked out johnsonm08's plant list. Surprised to see two photos of my plants on the first page. Most of the photos of his "haves" are actually ATP members' photos. Confused
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Dec 7, 2015 12:08 AM CST
central Illinois
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That might have something to do with said person not posting much into the database.
Certainly some exotics on that list.
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Dec 7, 2015 8:42 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Bubbles said:Out of curiosity, I checked out johnsonm08's plant list. Surprised to see two photos of my plants on the first page. Most of the photos of his "haves" are actually ATP members' photos. Confused


The plant lists are linked to the database and always put a DB photo with the listing (assuming there is one); if you've contributed a photo to the DB, that photo will be linked to your plant list, otherwise it will be the most popular photo in the DB entry.
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Dec 7, 2015 9:17 AM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
Thanks, Weedwacker! I wasn't aware of that. Thumbs up
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Dec 7, 2015 3:28 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Bee Lover Butterflies Birds I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Greenhouse Region: United States of America Region: Michigan Enjoys or suffers cold winters
You're welcome, Sandi! I tip my hat to you.
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