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Dec 15, 2011 8:07 AM CST
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Name: Sheryl
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Cool link - I like how they define both native and non-native plants. Thanks!
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Dec 15, 2011 8:11 AM CST
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Jan 21, 2012 9:44 PM CST
Name: Rita
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I have Milkweeds in my garden for the Monarch caterpillers and fennel, parsly and dill for the swallowtail caterpillers. But mostly I find that the flowers here that attract lots of both are butterfly bush, zinnias and mexican sunflowers. In fact all three are great for attracting both butterflys and hummingbirds. Best flowering shrub would be Butterfly bush and I have five of them. Best annual, zinnias. A bed or two of zinnias is really beautiful to look at plus brings lots of butterflies to visit.
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Jan 22, 2012 6:05 AM CST
Name: Karen
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Another good one in my yard last year was verbena Homestead Purple. I also have butterfly weed, 2 buddleias, and grow zinnia every year, like Rita. For a few years I grew a hedge of mexican zinnias along my back fence, but haven't done that for several years.

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Jan 22, 2012 6:42 AM CST
Name: Susan
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Newyorkrita said:I have Milkweeds in my garden for the Monarch caterpillers and fennel, parsly and dill for the swallowtail caterpillers. But mostly I find that the flowers here that attract lots of both are butterfly bush, zinnias and mexican sunflowers. In fact all three are great for attracting both butterflys and hummingbirds. Best flowering shrub would be Butterfly bush and I have five of them. Best annual, zinnias. A bed or two of zinnias is really beautiful to look at plus brings lots of butterflies to visit.


Thanks for that advice Rita, I have a lot of butterfly bushes also but did not plant any milkweeds last year or zinnias. I think that is a really good idea if you want to attract butterflies. I purchased some 'RED CACTUS ZINNIAS and I cannot wait to plant them, I will plant all of them because the mass planting is big impact also the red color might attract some hummers right?

Karen Those MEXICAN ZINNIA'S make a great hedge, I love the mass planting. Lovey dubby
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Jan 22, 2012 7:16 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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Jan 22, 2012 12:24 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Karen, the mass hedge effect looks great! Thumbs up

I have seen hummers feeding in the zinnias many times so yes, they do like zinnias also. But the main thing the zinnias attract are the butterflies. Plus I just love zinnias as I think they are so pretty.
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Apr 29, 2012 1:35 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
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Jun 9, 2012 3:16 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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Oh geez, my dill plants are full of small swallowtail caterpillers. Hope the birds don't find them for a snack!
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Jun 10, 2012 12:27 PM CST
Name: Kelly
South Carolina (Zone 7b)
The Spicebush Swallowtail caterpillar will also eat Camphor tree (Cinnamomum camphora). This is more prevalent in the deep south as this tree needs warm weather to survive. I am in zone 7 and it won't live outdoors here so I have it in a pot. The Spicebush Swallowtails prefer my Spicebush outside but the wasps always get them. So, I put some young caterpillars on my Camphor tree and bring the pot inside to raise them.

Here is a Spicebush Swallowtail Caterpillar eating my Camphor tree:
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This is an adult Spicebush Swallowtail butterfly:
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Here is a another webpage with host plants for butterflies: www.joyfulbutterfly.com/articles/whatdocaterpillarseat.html

@kqcrna Are Mexican Zinnias the same as Tithonia? I love my Tithonia, I get tons of big butterflies visiting it every season.
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Jun 10, 2012 2:07 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
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Good idea, bringing the plant inside! One thing I might add...if you don't have the caterpillars contained in some way, they might wander away...it happens. There are possible dangers involved for the caterpillars inside...pets, people walking around not seeing the little cat on the floor, etc. I speak from experience, sadly. Also, if they pupate inside a house somewhere and left there, the butterfly can emerge in winter and that it's not so good, if it should be overwintering until spring. I know there are things you can buy to make sure they don't get away. Two sites for butterfly raising supplies I've used:
http://educationalscience.com/...
http://www.butterflystores.com...
That reminds me...I used to know where to get something like the pop-up pavilions at stores in town, but haven't seen any in a while. I need to shop!
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Jun 10, 2012 2:14 PM CST
Name: Rita
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All my plants stay outside. The Caterpillars are on their own!
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Jun 11, 2012 2:40 PM CST
Name: Kelly
South Carolina (Zone 7b)
@LindaTX8 You are so right about them wandering away!! When we first started raising caterpillars indoors we would frequently do it in the open and we had several wander off that we had to hunt down and put back on the sticks we wanted them to pupate on! Now most of ours are raised in enclosures.

However, my Camphor tree is a little too big to enclose, but, the Spicebush Swallowtail cats are kind enough to turn bright yellow right before they get ready to pupate. I am a stay at home mom so we have been able to catch most of them and put them in an enclosure before they wander off.

In the past, we have on occasion had a butterfly "appear" in our house and not know that we had him. All in all, we have contributed much more to the butterfly population than we have taken away so I don't get too upset about an accidental loss of a butterfly or caterpillar. Their chances of success are immensely higher in our house than outdoors!!
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Jun 11, 2012 5:07 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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That's true, they are safer anywhere things can't get to them to kill them or parasitize them.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Jul 31, 2012 6:43 AM CST
Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
I need to find a book that will help us identify the types of butterflies that are hanging around our plants. We are seeing more and more different butterflies than we ever had. I have planted coneflowers, tall garden phlox, some petunias, some verbena, rudbeckias, as well as a lot of other cottage style gardening plants. Any suggestions for a good butterfly book that shows colored pictures of various varieties of butterflies? When one of the neighbor ladies move in about 3 or 4 yrs. ago, we "just had to have a butterfly bush!" She isn't home long enough to know if her bush atracts butterflies or not and not that observant when she is home..Duh! She says she keeps seeing them all over in my flowerbeds flying about. Hey,what can I say?
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Jul 31, 2012 9:57 AM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Well, I have Butterflies Through Binoculars the West...I'm pretty sure there's another one for "the East"(you're in the East, I see). The great thing about it is that it has little maps for each species, showing where they are know to be found and how many "broods" in what areas. Two broods would mean the butterflies lay eggs and the butterflies from the eggs would lay eggs again that same year, for example. There's also distinguishing markings pointed out on butterflies likely to be confused with other species. I also have a Peterson's field guide (I seem to have misplaced it right now) and a Field Guide to Butterflies by the National Audubon Society. Both good, but I just prefer the Butterflies Through Binoculars books the best.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Jul 31, 2012 9:57 AM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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Well, I have Butterflies Through Binoculars the West...I'm pretty sure there's another one for "the East"(you're in the East, I see). The great thing about it is that it has little maps for each species, showing where they are know to be found and how many "broods" in what areas. Two broods would mean the butterflies lay eggs and the butterflies from the eggs would lay eggs again that same year, for example. There's also distinguishing markings pointed out on butterflies likely to be confused with other species. I also have a Peterson's field guide (I seem to have misplaced it right now) and a Field Guide to Butterflies by the National Audubon Society. Both good, but I just prefer the Butterflies Through Binoculars books the best.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Aug 1, 2012 7:06 PM CST
Name: Cindi
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This 96 page book is my favorite. "Stokes Butterfly Book"
It has lists of plants for nectar and larval food, and has loads of clear photos of everything. All the life stages are shown, and there is even a chapter on "How to Rear Butterflies".
The subtitle of the book is "The Complete Guide to Butterfly Gardening, Identification and Behavior" and that is exactly what it is.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316817805/
I bought a used copy off Amazon and it came looking like new. It doesn't look like new anymore! I've used it quite a bit this summer. Right now, there's plenty of them available for $4 total.
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Aug 25, 2012 1:45 AM CST
Name: Randi Wilcoxen
Interlochen, Michigan (Zone 5b)
Carrots seem to be a good plant to have too. I currently have 4 eastern Swallowtail cats on my carrots eating them up so fast.
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May 22, 2013 1:07 PM CST
Name: Toney
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Anyone have thoughts on if I should plant a native milkweed or the curassavica? I have heard that the curassavica kills CA Monarchs. Is this true?
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