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Permaculture forum: I made a hugelkultur herb spiral today!

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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Mar 24, 2012 5:52 PM CST

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I've been wanting to do this for years and today was finally the day.

The site:
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The first course:
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Up we go!
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Bricks done:
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And of course this is a hugel spiral.
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Leaves, compost, soil, etc.
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The job is finished but I haven't taken the final photos yet.

I took over 200 photos and I will soon be writing a thorough tutorial on the entire process!
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 3a)
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CarolineScott
Mar 24, 2012 6:22 PM CST
That is one neat idea---even us on city lots could do it too.
(Zone 6a)
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TomNJ
Mar 24, 2012 6:46 PM CST
Looks good.
Name: Brian
Mendocino county, California (Zone 8b)
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Chickensonmars
Mar 24, 2012 7:09 PM CST
Very cool, look forward to see it growing.
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Little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky-tacky...
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Mar 24, 2012 7:17 PM CST

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I've got a bit more to mix up in the soil before I turn it over to the Misses but she'll be planting it pretty soon. I predict this is going to be a pretty nice herb garden. I'm really looking forward to it.

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hazelnut
Mar 24, 2012 8:06 PM CST
A thing of beauty.

Yesterday, a huge machine knocked down the little brick church across the street from me. A big truck came and hauled away all of the bricks. I took my sack across the street after they left to see If I could scavenge a few bricks, but there were only one or two left. Now wouldn't that demolished 20th century church make a nice spiral herb bed?
Name: Sharon
Calvert City, KY (Zone 7a)
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Sharon
Mar 24, 2012 10:11 PM CST
I agree with Hazelnut. It is a thing of beauty.

Too bad about the lost bricks, Gloria. I probably would have cried.

Looking forward to the article, Dave.
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Name: Tami Smith
Naylor, GA (Zone 8b)
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mollymistsmith
Mar 24, 2012 10:25 PM CST
Awesome!
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Name: Chris Powell
Glendale, AZ (Zone 9b)
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milkmood
Mar 25, 2012 8:34 AM CST
Very cool Dave. How many linear feet does that equate to? Also, how do you access the center of the spiral, is it small enough to reach into?
Name: Mary
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fiwit
Mar 25, 2012 8:34 AM CST
You just keep giving me cool ideas Green Grin!
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Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
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Horseshoe
Mar 25, 2012 9:45 AM CST
Great project! Even greater that it was done in one day! I'm impressed.

Looking forward to the tutorial/article!

Shoe (hmmm, over 200 pics taken. Wow!)

Name: Mary
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fiwit
Mar 25, 2012 9:56 AM CST
Horseshoe said:Great project! Even greater that it was done in one day! I'm impressed.


Yeah, but he had extra help Hilarious!
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Name: Tee
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SongofJoy
Mar 25, 2012 9:58 AM CST
A tutorial would be great! Thumbs up

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Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
And in the end...a happy beginning!
Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Horseshoe
Mar 25, 2012 10:00 AM CST
Ten-four on that, Mary.
Guess that is why he grows so many things on that farm, including farm hands! Smiling

Smart man, Dave is.

Shoe
Name: Tee
TN (Zone 7a)
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SongofJoy
Mar 25, 2012 10:05 AM CST
And no mortar ... or so it appears. I despise mixing and mortaring brick. This project I think I could do. Thumbs up
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Name: Mary
My little patch of paradise (Zone 7b)
Gardening dilettante, that's me!
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fiwit
Mar 25, 2012 10:17 AM CST
SongofJoy said:And no mortar ... or so it appears. I despise mixing and mortaring brick. This project I think I could do. Thumbs up


I noticed that too, and was curious about it. Eager for the tutorial Thumbs up
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows Beekeeper
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages
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dave
Mar 25, 2012 11:44 AM CST

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SongofJoy said:And no mortar ... or so it appears. I despise mixing and mortaring brick. This project I think I could do. Thumbs up


Well, I really thought that it would be okay without the mortar, but it turns out that was a bad risk that I took.

This morning the weight of the soil had moved the bricks enough that in many places there is an inch separation between bricks. So, the effort was valiant but I'm going to have to take this apart and redo it, mortaring it this time.

As a side benefit, Trish preferred it in a slightly different place anyway, so we're starting over in a new place. I've already dug the footers and will pour concrete tomorrow. I don't expect this to be a one day job next time. Smiling
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 5a)
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Oberon46
Mar 25, 2012 12:01 PM CST
the spiral they show in Gaia's garden just had stones set every so often up the spiral. Even mentioned putting a pond, um, somewhere around the base. But I wonder if building and using mortar won't somewhat limit the ability to share and spread nutrients. I know that certain plants add or take certain things from the soil so that planting diversity sort of evens this out. Also their design has a pvc pipe running from under the base up through the middle to facilitate watering (an "L" shaped pipe presumably with threads on the lower end to hook up water. Just wondering.
Name: Tee
TN (Zone 7a)
Crazy cat woman
Cat Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Butterflies Birds Dragonflies Hummingbirder
Bee Lover Frogs and Toads Garden Ideas: Master Level I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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SongofJoy
Mar 25, 2012 12:05 PM CST
That one has no mortar at all, Mary Stella?

Member: Tennessee Native Plant Society and The Gesneriad Society
March to the beat of your own drum // "We kids feared many things in those days - werewolves, dentists, North Koreans, Sunday School - but they all paled in comparison with Brussels sprouts." ~~Dave Barry
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 5a)
Peonies Ponds Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Oberon46
Mar 25, 2012 12:09 PM CST
doesn't seem to. Just rocks placed around the base on up the spiral but didn't seem to be as 'tower of Babylon'ish as Dave's. I don't know what holds it up then. Even Dave's built very sturdily with brick gave way to the pressure of the dirt (and mud as the dirt got wet). Will go back and read word for word; I too often look at a picture, skip trace through the narrative -- and don't always get it right. Seems like a great idea and I would like to try it also. Dave put in a heck of a lot of work on that tower to have to take it down. I had to smile a little when he said that the Mrs. sort of wanted it moved a little anyway. Not like moving a sofa, eh?

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