It was wonderful to hear what Zuzu and Sue sound like! I really enjoyed the podcast and thank Dave and Trish for interviewing two of my favorite gardening people.
In the past, when I'd hear my local gardeners talk of the evils of overhead watering for roses, I had to wonder if they stood outside with umbrellas to protect their roses. Then I got to see rose bushes at one of their properties and the roses were planted in full shade; so much for their knowledge. It's enough to keep the house free of dust, I can't dust my plants as well!