When I tell my local friends about ATP, they kind of look at me like I have three heads. None of them are true gardeners, can't understand why I'd spend so much time on such a "dumb" thing. That's part of why I like ATP so much- I have friends here with whom I share interests. Getting to "know" someone a little, sharing their personal trials and tribulations, is part of that.
Don't diss the sandbox.
I live there.
Karen