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Nov 7, 2015 11:30 PM CST
Name: Cindi
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Lyn, I thought of another factor that might account for the different results we get growing in pots---does it cool down at night there for you? Once we get hot here in the summer, our nights can stay in the 90s. The plants don't get a chance to recover. This summer was an anomaly in that we had 20" more rain than normal, AND it was cooler at night, down in the 70s quite a bit of the time.
In the summer, when we get rain, quite often it comes at night, and we'll get several inches at once. I think our May and June rains give the roses a real head start.
I was reading through a forum on propagation and one person pointed out that he kept his newly rooted roses in pots until the roots could "compete" with other roots in the soil. Is that why so many people pot young plants? To give them their own soil space so roots can spread farther, sooner?
When I plant in the ground, I space my roses 4 or 5 feet apart at least. All my beds are mixed beds, and I'm careful to keep any "root hogs" away from the roses. They really aren't competing with anything.
As far as growing body bag roses, I agree the best way for them is to start in a pot, but I'm kind of contradicting myself there. If it's good for the body bag roses, then why isn't it better for others? The only reason I can give is body bags have so little chance that I have to shelter them in every way. The few bagged roses I get each year stay on my west porch until they are completely leafed out. This location ensures I keep a better eye on them. I lose many when I transplant them.
I've ordered quite a few roses this year and I'm hoping this is the final year to do that. I've been more selective on orders so I do want to work smarter at it this time around. These roses SHOULD thrive here. None are zone 7 or florist roses. No more late season stressed out babies! So I'm taking in all advice here and trying to come up with a successful game plan. The comments and ideas here have been excellent food for thought!
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