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Jun 15, 2019 12:54 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Critters Allowed Butterflies Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
I've been poking around in the various backyard habitat programs when I ran across the Texas page. Unfortunately... Glare

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Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Jun 15, 2019 12:59 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
Just move forward with establishing a native habitat. No need to be certified.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Jun 15, 2019 5:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Critters Allowed Butterflies Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
I've already done that! nodding


However, since there are others who come into the garden, I decided to go ahead and look at the various certifications as talking points. You never know what will trigger someone to climb on board. If doing that gets others interested, I'm in!
Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Jun 16, 2019 9:38 AM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
Good idea. I'm just not much for signs. I looked into some sort of native habitat certification, and found I already had all the components. Then found out the cost for self-reporting and receiving a sign, and opted out. But, to each their own.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Jun 16, 2019 3:02 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Critters Allowed Butterflies Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Same here. For a while I didn't see a need. But I've been listening to folks at a few events and watched what triggered folks. I didn't much care about the registrations or spending money on signs. But the more I looked at responses and what got people to act, I figured I'd add that to the toolbox.
Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Mar 24, 2020 3:27 AM CST
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Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder
That's very unfortunate. There was a time that Texas as a state was getting their priorities straight more, but that seems to have fallen apart due to budget-cutting and such. There's also a national program for certifications, AFAIK, it is still actively working.
https://www.nwf.org/Garden-for...
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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May 7, 2020 6:31 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Critters Allowed Butterflies Hummingbirder Cat Lover
Bee Lover Region: Mid-Atlantic Cottage Gardener Garden Photography Tropicals Hibiscus
The "official" certifications help me deal with my HOA and with ignorant neighbors. They wouldn't take my word for the helpfulness of brush piles, but if NWF says they are needed, well, that's a different story.
We're all learners, doers, teachers.
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May 10, 2020 5:53 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder
Yes, I'd hate to have someone tell me I have to get rid of my brush piles and a few dead tree trunks! Not to mention the leaf litter layers on the place. Out here, the main complaints of neighbors involve dogs allowed to roam free and occasional burglary break-ins.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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May 10, 2020 6:14 PM CST
Maryland (Zone 7b)
Passionate about Native Plants
Bee Lover Salvias Native Plants and Wildflowers Hummingbirder Critters Allowed Garden Photography
Butterflies Birds Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
My brush piles play an important part in maintaining a natural habitat.

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Fortunately my neighbors undertand.
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May 10, 2020 7:15 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
I can't fathom why anyone would want an HOA in that kind of environment. If I could own a piece of property that is wooded, it would be to get away from all the restrictions of the city, and nosey neighbors.
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May 10, 2020 7:48 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Critters Allowed Butterflies Hummingbirder Cat Lover
Bee Lover Region: Mid-Atlantic Cottage Gardener Garden Photography Tropicals Hibiscus
Well, we're in a suburban subdivision... my "woods" is actually a fence row of trees along our rear lot line. My "wooded path" runs beside the trees that were there when we moved in, with newer trees and shrubs on the other side.

After battling poison ivy there for many years, I've been able to start underplanting with various shrubs and understory trees, some flowering/ornamental just for me (azeleas & rhodi's, hellebores, astilbe, hostas, Kerria), some for the wildlife also (chokecherry, beautyberry, viburnums, spicebush, native ferns, paw paw, American holly). The wild cherry, mulberry, and sassafras trees that were there to start with provide food for birds and various caterpillars.

I just made yet another attempt to put in a wintergreen plant, since I always loved finding those in the PA mountains
We're all learners, doers, teachers.
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May 11, 2020 1:20 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Sounds lovely!
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May 14, 2020 7:48 AM CST
Maryland (Zone 7b)
Passionate about Native Plants
Bee Lover Salvias Native Plants and Wildflowers Hummingbirder Critters Allowed Garden Photography
Butterflies Birds Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
I've lived on this small three acre property for twenty years and have observed a lot of changes. It's distressing when new people move to the area and clear cut trees in order to plant grass for lawns. By doing so, they force away the wildlife. Fortunately many of the critters have found my space to be a sanctuary, and they give me so much joy. Last night I sat on the patio with a cold beer and witnessed a real-life nature show. Two foxes came by to visit, a painted bunting showed up, bluebirds were bathing in the birdbath, and the mama deer was suckling her newborn fawn. Meanwhile the bird feeders were busy with cardinals, titmice, and black-capped chickadees while butterflies and bees were gathering nectar and pollen from the wildflowers. For me, this is heaven on earth. Yes, I have the signs to verify my goal - but they're really unnecessary. All it takes is a commitment to not be the "invasive species".

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May 14, 2020 1:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Critters Allowed Butterflies Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
How long have you had the NABA Sign? They're plastic and the manufacturer says not to put them into sunlight. That's what stopped me from getting that one. Thought I'd wait to hear from someone who has lived with one out in the elements for a while.
Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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May 14, 2020 2:31 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Critters Allowed Butterflies Hummingbirder Cat Lover
Bee Lover Region: Mid-Atlantic Cottage Gardener Garden Photography Tropicals Hibiscus
You could clear-coat it with something UV resistant. clear spraypaint for plastic or clear rustoleum for metal are what I usually use to keep things from fading... need to respray every couple of years. If it starts fading, you can always go over the black areas with a Sharpie EXTREME marker.
We're all learners, doers, teachers.
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May 14, 2020 3:13 PM CST
Maryland (Zone 7b)
Passionate about Native Plants
Bee Lover Salvias Native Plants and Wildflowers Hummingbirder Critters Allowed Garden Photography
Butterflies Birds Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
Those signs have been there for several years. Admittedly it's a fairly shady spot, but you can tell by the rust around the screws that it's not a new installation. The picture was taken this week. No cracking or fading so far.
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May 14, 2020 3:37 PM CST
Name: Dick Strever
No.Calif amongst the Redwoods (Zone 9a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Region: California
the rusty screws tell all Smiling
Gardens are a thing of Beauty and a job forever
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May 15, 2020 3:37 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder
It's pretty hard to avoid all restrictions, even in the country. We have a neighborhood association we pay extremely small dues for it. Basically, there's some rules, but not much. They oversee road work, since the county doesn't do that and when someone ran into the little neighborhood mailbox shelter, they took care of that. But work is mainly unpaid volunteers and officers of the association. They once tried to get us to mow a certain part of the front part of the lot. which was mostly cleared by the previous owner and we said no. There was no rule that said we had to do that, although the rules do encourage mowing areas very close to the road because of traffic. And their own volunteers already were doing that. We don't even have a lawnmower. Frequent mowing would eventually eliminate most of the wildflowers. Anyway, they didn't bother us about it after then.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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