laszloszakszon said:Please help! That's what kind Sempervivum?

• Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Saxon')
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• Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Saxon')
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• Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Saxon')
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Maybe some of you might be able to help identify the origins of the amazing semp?

I search also the name of this cultivar

Many Thanks for your help



Original post (in french) in International Crassulaceae Network forum: http://forum.crassulaceae.ch/v...

Thank you Chromo. Lets see if Laszlo has any information to add.
@laszloszakszon

I found the "name" of this plant. It is known as Sempervivum mettenianum f.variegata, which is quite fantasy, of course.
mettenianum is synonym of tectorum but was sometimes used to describe hybrid tectorum x arachnoideum.

So would it be Sempervivum tectorum form variegata?

@JungleShadows Kevin what do you think?
@laszloszakszon Laszlo, have you found any more information?

I think

The photos look correct for that to me Lynn (a very inexpert opinion - just going by the tectorums that I have!!)

In searching for information on this amazing sempervivum I found this old article on the topic of variegated semps.
http://stalikez.info/fsm/semp/...

Here is a new variegated semp bred by Don Mylin (SMG). Not white, but very interesting. http://www.smgsucculents.com/S...

Thanks Lynn, interesting info!

Oh the quasi polky dotty semp...!!! I'm going to say "very cute" (while thinking of KAMasud , remember him, Greg?) !!

Yes, this is the kind!

Sempervivum mettenianum f.variegata

Indeed, this will be the cultivar. I made ​​some photos of it. The leaves are starting to color. This autumn color. Very nice extra color. I think it will be spring green, and white stripes again. I hope very much remain outdoors in winter. Thank you for the information. Of course, I promised next year I will.

That is interesting. I have seen plants do strange things do to environment and soil. Nature is great.

I saw the effect of one of my semps that was planted in an area that was a baby from one of my other semps. It never made babies it lived for about 4 yrs then just dried up. I think it was a virus, soil, or something but it certainly was different.

What a dark dazzling color that is, Cinta!

Thank you for the new photos Laszlo, they are wonderful. What month was the photos with all the red?

Catalogue of Life show that Sempervivum mettenianum is a synonym of Sempervivum tectorum.
So the entry will read: Sempervivum tectorum variegatum
Synonym: Sempervivum mettenianum variegatum

Here you go Laszlo and Chroma, will you post your photos to the database? Hen and Chick (Sempervivum 'Saxon')

Photos are now made​​. I think it will be a winter color (red) currently look like. Each is a different shade. There's that green and red tones. (20 pieces photographed) All other shades.

I see, it is different rosettes. Thank you Laszlo.

I got 'Poco Loco' from SMG this summer and it immediately turned all green and has stayed that way unfortunately. Hoping to see some red in it next year.

I think it did state that it would go all green in the summer. Sure would be fantastic if it stayed speckled.

I have a 'Telfan' X self seedling that has that kind of variegation as Don's semp. It is a variable anthocyanin gene, similar to the dotting and splashing you get on corn kernels. My seedling turns all purple so it loses the effect of the variegation.

This is different than the chloroplast variegation that is due to a mutation affecting chloroplast development. Most of these that have occurred in the past of this type have not been good growers or lost their variegation. This new one looks to be a stable chimera, however.

Kevin