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Aug 18, 2015 12:01 PM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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It's a relatively new planting and looked fine up until now. We even harvested a few leaves one morning recently to put in our scrambled eggs. Then a couple days later it started looking like this.

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Aug 18, 2015 12:58 PM CST
Name: Cindy
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Heat? Liquid fertilizer burn? Too much sun? In a pot, my basil likes a little shade. Our sun has been very strong for the past month. Unless you're collecting seeds, I would snip off those flower bud clusters so the plant energy can be directed to new leaves.
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Aug 18, 2015 1:13 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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Greg, did you just recently plant that out in the planter, as a started plant? It looks like sunburn to me, which could be from the plant not having been acclimated gradually to the sunny spot, or maybe the sun in that spot is just too harsh.
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Aug 18, 2015 4:09 PM CST
Name: Elaine
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If you used new potting soil that had fertilizer already in it, and then also gave the plant some liquid fert, you might have overdone it on the fertilizer, Greg.

My basil takes full-on Florida sun here, so I must admit I've never seen them get sun burn. It's one plant that goes straight through our brutal hot, humid summers without batting an eye. But it could be mine have always been acclimated, as I do raise my own seedlings. Your weaker sun up there in the Pac NW should be gentle enough, as here we are already 2 months past the summer solstice. (where'd the summer go?)

Actions to take, yes, as Cindy said, pinch off the bloom clusters, and any leaves that look bad. Give a little extra water for a few days and see if it bounces back. The newer small leaves look green, so maybe it's already recovering and it was just transplant shock.
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Aug 19, 2015 9:57 AM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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Yes, new planting in a 6ft cedar planter (also new) with some ornamental and also a parsley plant next to it, which we also harvested a bit and it's still doing ok. Yes, it's on the sunny side of the house, (morning shade from the house, then unfiltered afternoon sun from about 1pm till 5pm) and it's been hot here in the NW. I filled the planter with general purpose potting soil. I use a bit of general purpose fert on new plantings, but usually don't add any fert after that. I haven't used liquid fert. Watering schedule is daily most mornings, watered at the base.

Sounds like sun burn is the most likely reason? Should it be moved to it's own container and a shadier area? How big do these get?
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Aug 19, 2015 10:05 AM CST
Name: Elaine
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Depends upon the variety of Basil, Greg. Some stay about a foot tall, and others for me get to nearly 3ft. But your shorter growing season won't have that happening, at least not this year.

Recommend you take a cutting or two and see if you can root them in water to start new plants. You can grow them on a sunny windowsill through the winter then harden them off for your garden in the spring. You'll even get to harvest some leaves for your scrambled eggs in the winter as well. Such a luxury.

Another question, as I can't see in this picture, but were there multiple Basil plants in the pot when you planted it? If so, they also might be strangling each other. I know how common it is to buy a 4in. pot of Basil with 5 or 6 plants in it, just to make it look attractive for the store. But if you get one of these, buy one with small enough plants that you can separate them and give each the space it deserves - about a foot apart is good for a vigorous grower like Basil.
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Aug 19, 2015 10:32 AM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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dyzzypyxxy said:Depends upon the variety of Basil, Greg. Some stay about a foot tall, and others for me get to nearly 3ft. But your shorter growing season won't have that happening, at least not this year.

Recommend you take a cutting or two and see if you can root them in water to start new plants. You can grow them on a sunny windowsill through the winter then harden them off for your garden in the spring. You'll even get to harvest some leaves for your scrambled eggs in the winter as well. Such a luxury.

Another question, as I can't see in this picture, but were there multiple Basil plants in the pot when you planted it? If so, they also might be strangling each other. I know how common it is to buy a 4in. pot of Basil with 5 or 6 plants in it, just to make it look attractive for the store. But if you get one of these, buy one with small enough plants that you can separate them and give each the space it deserves - about a foot apart is good for a vigorous grower like Basil.


No, just this one. Left to right is basil (pruned), parsley, celosia, and orange trumpet vine. These are all new. Also in that terra pot is some tuscan blue rosemary.

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Aug 19, 2015 10:46 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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I agree that it looks like sun burn. Mostly I just wanted to say what an attractive planter that it! And I love what you did with the lattice and the PVC pipe frame. I may have to steal that idea. Smiling
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Aug 19, 2015 11:01 AM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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woofie said:I agree that it looks like sun burn. Mostly I just wanted to say what an attractive planter that it! And I love what you did with the lattice and the PVC pipe frame. I may have to steal that idea. Smiling


Thanks. For the pvc/lattice trellis arch, see my other thread on that.
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Aug 25, 2015 6:20 PM CST
Name: Rita
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Does your plant look any better?
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Aug 25, 2015 11:56 PM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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Newyorkrita said:Does your plant look any better?


Yes, thank you for asking. Pretty much as it appears in the planter picture above, minus a bit we harvested after I pruned it. I'm going to have to look up how to dry herbs.
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Aug 26, 2015 12:23 PM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
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Aug 26, 2015 9:17 PM CST
Name: Elfrieda
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At a garden meeting some months ago, our speaker was Robert Bowden -- chief honcho at Leu Botanical Gardens in Orlando.
He mentioned that a lot of the basil plants may start out OK, but soon the leaves droop, turn yellow and just look awful. Well, it surprised me -- a lot of the plants are actually grown in Asia and shipped here -- and they had a virus. I had one that look terrible so threw it out. However, I also had a large basil plant that was over a year old and I allowed it to go to seed. I used those seeds and now have some gorgeous, healthy plants. I'm potting some up to take to our first garden club meeting next month.
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Aug 26, 2015 11:08 PM CST
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Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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I may have spoke too soon. This morning (Wednesday) they appeared to be turning brown again.
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Aug 27, 2015 7:22 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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How in the world could it make any kind of sense to buy basil plants from Asia? I don't think there are many plants that are easier to grow from seed...
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Aug 27, 2015 9:18 PM CST
Name: Elfrieda
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It's all about the cheap labor. I'd had no idea either that basil was being brought in from Asia. I know that our supermarket sells huge, white garlic bulbs (I think they're bleached) and the come from China. I will buy only from California or Mexico; and soon, hopefully, will be growing my own. Did you know that a lot of chickens are now being sent to China for processing. I didn't have a good reaction to that information. What is going on ? Why is that necessary ?
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Aug 27, 2015 9:34 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Chickens are grown here, sent to China and then sent back?? Blinking
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Aug 28, 2015 8:28 AM CST
Name: Elfrieda
Indian Harbour Beach, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Weedwhacker said:Chickens are grown here, sent to China and then sent back?? Blinking


Yes -- it's been in the news. Was talking to some girl friends about it at lunch the other day -- none of us can understand the reasoning behind this. Plus, with the "new" labeling that will be in effect, you soon won't be able to tell where it comes from anyway. Geez !
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Aug 28, 2015 8:51 AM CST
Name: woofie
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Not exactly. Here is the take on the subject of chickens and China from Snopes:
http://m.snopes.com/china-chic...
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Aug 28, 2015 10:48 AM CST
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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woofie said:Not exactly. Here is the take on the subject of chickens and China from Snopes:
http://m.snopes.com/china-chic...


I don't want any food processed or raised in China!!!

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