Wow, I didn't realize there were so many bamboo species in Brazil Janet! Amazing!
Thanks for that link.
I realize now it is not doable to get to species level, not even sure we could get to the genus.
Many fine details would be needed, and I doubt there would be the documentation on the web for comparing!
I googled Chusquea but couldn't find anything that really matches..
And as there are taller stalks sticking out in the one from the botanical garden, it could well be they are being trimmed and that would explain the dense tuft of petioles on top of the stalk shown on the last photo from that one..so the measures I have given might not be true..
It is mission impossible!