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Aug 12, 2017 5:24 PM CST
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ase help identifying this plant. I'd like to add more. Thanks!
Fresno, ca

Picture is appearing darker than it is. Dark red/purple. New shoots start as green. Definitely isn't New Zealand guardsman
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Aug 12, 2017 7:11 PM CST
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A type of Phormium.

http://portlandnursery.com/pla...
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Aug 12, 2017 11:32 PM CST
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I figured as much but I can't seem to narrow it down. The leaves aren't thick or spikes. Very relaxed and leafy vs strong and crisp like most phormiums .

Also to note it's leaves are broader than most phormiums and it doesn't not flower
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Aug 14, 2017 4:31 PM CST
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Aug 14, 2017 6:26 PM CST
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Could it be Pennisetum Vertigo?

https://www.google.ca/search?q...
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Aug 15, 2017 5:03 AM CST
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How long has it been there?
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Aug 15, 2017 7:49 PM CST
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I suspect it is a Pennisetum but more pics of the stem, how it grows out of the ground and additional pics would help.
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Aug 16, 2017 5:51 PM CST
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islander said:I suspect it is a Pennisetum but more pics of the stem, how it grows out of the ground and additional pics would help.


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It looks very similar to this but it does not have those fox tails nor does it flower.

Here are some pictures

P.s. I've lived here for about a year and don't know when they were planted
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Aug 16, 2017 6:15 PM CST
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@Bigfoot312 did you look at the pictures of Pennisetum Vertigo I gave a link to above? It does not flower.
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Aug 17, 2017 4:40 PM CST
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sooby said:@Bigfoot312 did you look at the pictures of Pennisetum Vertigo I gave a link to above? It does not flower.


The link you provided got me to first knight, which I think is what mine is. Do you agree?
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Aug 17, 2017 6:09 PM CST
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I only saw Vertigo ('Tift 8') on the link so missed First Knight ('Tift 10'). I've only grown Vertigo. If you think yours looks more like First Knight that would be the one to go for. Apparently either may flower in areas that get no frost, otherwise not. No chance of that where I am Hilarious!
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looks like type of crinum. There are varieties with giant-black-leaves, as well as dwarf (grass-like) black leaves. Mine are exactly like this picture. You might want to check the base of plants, they have pseudostems and the leaves are bit fleshy
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Crinum Lily (Crinum 'Menehune')

they were never flowers for me yet though
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Aug 18, 2017 6:36 AM CST
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tofitropic said:https://garden.org/plants/view/537389/Crinum-Lily-Crinum-Menehune/

they were never flowers for me yet though


The drink lily and first knight are very similar! I am leaning more towards the crinum due to the broadness and apparent fleshiness of it which is how my plant is. Thank you! I do believe we have decoded this
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I think it may be a variety of Phormium called 'Platt's Black'

Very unusual and a great plant to compliment summer bedding plants, or use as a specimen.
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Aug 18, 2017 12:53 PM CST
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dave said:It reminds me of Ornamental Millet (Cenchrus americanus 'Purple Majesty')


Thank you but this doesn't appear to be it.it grows in grassy clumps instead of stalks like the millet
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Aug 18, 2017 12:54 PM CST
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Yorkshirelass said:
I think it may be a variety of Phormium called 'Platt's Black'

Very unusual and a great plant to compliment summer bedding plants, or use as a specimen.




This does strongly resemble it...hard to tell the difference between all of these, but I don't think this one is quite broad and fleshy as mine
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Aug 18, 2017 1:23 PM CST
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I have Pennisetum glaucum 'Purple Majesty' and it doesn't seem to be it. Although it doesn't show the fan growth of Phormium, 'Platt's Black' doesn't seem to show that characteristic well. The blunted tips of the leaves makes me think the Phormium suggestion is closest.
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Aug 18, 2017 2:43 PM CST
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Since it hasn't flowered in at least a year I wouldn't think it would be Pennisetum 'Purple Majesty', which flowers here the first year as an annual. If it's the Phormium it should eventually flower, I would have thought, at which time the question will be answered! If it never flowers and there is frost in winter in Fresno (?) then I would lean more towards the Pennisetum like Vertigo which only flowers in the mildest winter climates. Or something else!

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