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Mar 24, 2010 9:32 PM CST
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Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
Okay, need help on this one. I have a pack of climbing sweet peas, Royal Family(mixed colors) that I want to sow today. Do I need to soak or nick them before sowing? My goal is to let them climb onto my mailbox..
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Mar 25, 2010 7:53 AM CST
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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You can soak them, but usually the spring cool damp conditions is good enough. Are you direct seeding them?
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Mar 31, 2010 11:47 AM CST
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Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
Joanne, I was considering WS them, but depends on how long it will take. Anybody know off the top of their head? Tomorrow is April 1st. and our last chance of frost date here is April 22 I think, so am wondering if I should just wait and then direct sow them? How will I know when I should open up my containers on the seedling that have already germinated? Do I just open them a little at a time instead of all at once, weather depending? At what temperature should I be able to open them(60's? 70"s?) Will opening them help them develop their second true leaves which means I can set them in the flowerbed? When I am able to plant them in the flowerbed, should I use the top of the jug to protect them for a while?(I'm thinking from squirrells, chipmunk and deer) Wouldn't I would need clear, soda bottles that are clear, instead of milk jugs?What about clear, water bottles?
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Mar 31, 2010 5:18 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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I sowed some a few years ago but don't remember if it was winter or spring, but I did them in a jug. I think they're pretty hardy to cold weather.

You open jugs when you are satisfied with germination. If the weather is hot, you can keep closed and add extra ventilation holes. You can also modify their temp by sun exposure.

Karen
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Apr 2, 2010 7:29 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I have some too and wondering if there is still time to WS them
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Apr 10, 2010 10:20 AM CST
Name: Heidi
Indianapolis, IN
Zone 5b
So sweet pea (flowers) are not frost hardy like eating peas and have a higher germination temperature? If you're direct sowing them, you'd plant them after all danger of frost has passed? Or they are somewhat frost tolerant and I can direct sow them a couple weeks before my "Definitely Won't Get Frost" date?

One source is telling me that the germination temp is 65-75 degrees, another, 55-65. Regardless, if I sprout them, do I need to make sure the soil that I put the sprouts in is around the same temp as I sprouted them? Does that question make sense? If I sprout them in the house at around 70 degrees and put them in soil that is, say, around 50 degrees, will they die?

Here's another dumb question: If I decide that I need to find out what the actual soil temp is, do I have to buy a soil thermometer? Or can I just stick my meat thermometer into the ground as far as it will go? (Shhh! Don't tell my dinner guests!)
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Apr 10, 2010 7:53 PM CST
Name: Linda
Carmel, IN (Zone 5b)
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Rolling on the floor laughing at using the meat thermometer!
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Apr 18, 2010 3:32 PM CST
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Sweet Peas are very hardy and can be sown as soon as the grown can be worked, which sometimes is as early as March. I planted mine about a month or so ago and they are up now making their first true leaves. They do best in cool weather, they are also very popular in England where they often have lots of cool damp weather which the Sweet Peas love!
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Apr 18, 2010 6:47 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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Heidi: You just need to become a compost wacko.

I, a certified compost wacko, own both a soil thermometer and a compost thermometer. *Blush*

Karen
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Apr 18, 2010 6:56 PM CST
Name: Heidi
Indianapolis, IN
Zone 5b
Cool, thanks for the info. I'll put them out soon. Can't wait to get my first sweet pea blooms.

Well, until I become a compost wacko, the meat thermometer works out just fine. The neighbors might think I'm insane, but what do they know? Hilarious!
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Apr 18, 2010 7:14 PM CST
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Ok, I feel pretty naive right now..........but what is a soil thermometer for? *Blush*
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Apr 18, 2010 7:26 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
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To measure the soil temp.

Karen
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Apr 18, 2010 7:46 PM CST
Name: Heidi
Indianapolis, IN
Zone 5b
If a seed germinates within a certain range of temperatures, and the soil isn't within that temperature range, some people won't sow the seed at that time. Especially because there is a danger of seeds rotting in cold, wet soil. If you're a farmer planting several acres, you can imagine what kind of loss that would be.

I did a little research and found that you're supposed to insert it 2"-3" if you're sowing seeds or deeper if you're transplanting.
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Apr 18, 2010 7:56 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (Zone 6a)
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Ok, that makes sense! Thanks Heidi and Karen!
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