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Dec 10, 2019 2:16 PM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Sigh.....
I wouldn't be trying to do this if I had not had an attack by a SLUG on my plant a couple months ago. This was my lovely Monstera dubia before the slaughter.
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This is the variegated form. I also have the plain green form, which was spared by the slugs so is still going strong
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This is what I was left with. I took it off the support and put it on a smaller one that I made with 2 paint stirrers, hoping that even though ALL the leaves were eaten off (including the apical shoot, the last growing leaf at the top) I might get a new shoot coming out somewhere. But its been a while and no activity.
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So I have decided to section it all up and try and propagate it that way.

Many studies have been done of plant hormones and their roles in causing plant growth and branching. The main hormone that is responsible for plant growth is Auxin. It is made up in the apical growing tip of the stem (where the last new leaf exits). Auxin inhibits branching. But the nodes at all shoot tips along the stem affect each other in different ways. So if you prune a tip off, or pinch a plant back, you halt the inhibiting property of Auxin. If there isn't any Auxin, a plant can be motivated to branch or form new shoots.

I was hoping that would happen when the slug ate the growing tip of this plant but it has not.

The second plant hormone that is important to plant growth is Cytokinin. It is made at the very tips of the roots and influences plants in the manufacture of new organs (roots, and shoots). If roots tips are damaged in maneuvers like repotting, or by insects or snails, or chemical attack, this is what sets plants back.

Cytokinin also helps plants repair damage. But the relationship of Auxin to Cytokinin is what is important. If Auxin > Cytokinin,the plants form roots. If Auxin < Cytokinin, the plants form shoots.

SO my plant has the growing tip destroyed (no Auxin) but was still rooted (+ Cytokinin).It should have shouted, and might if I was willing to wait. But I'm not. Because I think I can get 3 new plants out of this disaster.

So in looking at my now bare stem, I count my nodes. I have 9. I want to have at least 2 nodes per cutting. So I make my cuts on the stem accordingly and end up with the still-potted mama with a node, and 3 additional cuttings with 2 or more nodes

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I use a special pair of small sharp scissors for this that make very clean cuts and don't crush the stem. These are actually old suture removal scissors.
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I keep the cuttings lined up the way they were growing from lower to higher (L to R) so that I don't get the orientation wrong when I plant them.

I dip the cuttings up past the bottom first node into rooting hormone.
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I put them into very tiny 1 1/2" clay propagation pots in a mix of Jungle Growth potting mix, peat, and a whole lotta perlite that I pre-moistened. I have already filled the pots and made holes with a pencil. I water lightly ONCE. I won't water again until the pots dry out completely.
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These will need really HIGH humidity, so I am keeping them in one of my terrariums.

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Then I turn on the fogger.
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Since mama is still rooted, I will put her back out in the greenhouse. Then I do an ancient fertility dance and throw rice at them (just kidding)


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Now there isn't anything to do but sit and wait. My experience with doing this before over the years with many different types of plants tells me it will be successful, but, you never know. Crossing Fingers!
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Dec 10, 2019 3:37 PM CST
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
I hope it's successful! Please give updates!
I want to be mad at the slug, but I guess a slug's gotta eat too...just not in your beautiful greenhouse.
This was really interesting, btw. Thank you.
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May 30, 2020 1:09 PM CST
London, UK
Did you have any luck with this, Gina?
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May 30, 2020 1:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
No. The stem cuttings I took did not make it. But, the old stem that is still potted in the old pot has started growing again. It has a new leaf.

Dubia is very easy to propagate through leaf cuttings. You basically cut a piece, mount it to a plaque with sphagnum moss and keep it moist and it will start to grow. The stem cuttings didn't do as well. I have a leaf cutting that I am propagating, don;t have a photo but if you'd like to see it I could get one once it stops raining.
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May 31, 2020 11:11 AM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
This is the little new shoot on the variegated Dubia
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I am going to experiment with putting keiki paste on that old eye across from it and see if I can get it to shoot there too

And this is a cutting of Dubia I plaqued up. Once it gets a free floating string of leaves I will stick it to a tree
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Jun 2, 2020 2:14 PM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Got this yesterday as part of a trade...mounted Monstera dubia variegated form. Hope it makes it it was in a dry box for 5 days
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Jun 8, 2020 11:55 AM CST
South-central Iowa (Zone 5b)
I purchased a rooted, growing cutting in late winter. As it had some length to it, I cut off two or three nodes and stuck them into sphag. I planned on mounting it, but not getting around to it, I have clipped and made several additional starts. I wasn't aware of the ability to grow from leaves. Do you know the term for that skill? I understand the practice, I create an obscene amount of begonias, but would like to understand the mechanics of it.
Hope your newest acquisition is doing well.
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Jun 8, 2020 3:12 PM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
I don't think there is a special term for it, but I could be mistaken. Monstera dubia in the juvenile state is an appressed climber like Marcgravias, the true Pothos and the shingling plants. It still stays somewhat appressed after the leaves morph and get big.

I looked at it this morning and it already has a 2nd leaf! And you can see the silver venation coming out already. This makes me happy, this plant was a gift from a friend and I was so upset when the slugs munched it.
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Jun 8, 2020 3:33 PM CST
South-central Iowa (Zone 5b)
That gives me some direction, thank you.
I'm glad he had perked up!
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Jun 8, 2020 4:40 PM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Scindapsus is another one that does not need any soil. I mounted this one directly to this plank, no soil, and it immediately took and started growing
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Jun 8, 2020 8:14 PM CST
South-central Iowa (Zone 5b)
Your direction sent me down a rabbit hole! I have half a dozen tabs open to Croat, IAS, and aroid dot org, lol!
Thank You!
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Jun 9, 2020 6:20 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
I always look things up on sites like that. If I am interested in acquiring a new species, I will research it first and try to find the original notes on its collection in the field to see how it grew in the wild. I have found it is the best way to know how to culture each individual specific plant. I like to know beforehand if it should be grown as a true epiphyte, if it is scandent or not, if it can grow as a terrestrial or an epiphyte, if it is high elevation or not (makes a difference in heat tolerance) etc. I think it can save a lot of headaches if I have researched a plant thoroughly before I buy.
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Jun 11, 2020 10:02 PM CST
Los Angeles, CA
Gina,

You are a constant inspiration, ruthlessly inspiring us young plant collectors!!!

I have a Variegated Dubia growing in sphagnum moss in a plastic bag, I wanted the roots to be fuller before transporting, it seems happy the way it grew there (grow out is complete!) but with a big starting leaf and now all new growths are small. (I believe just because they need to attach 💝).

I need to pot it with a wood plank or mount it on wood, I've got the wood and I have sphagnum moss, but a little scared to start, lol! Do you recommend attaching a sphagnum ball at the base without dirt? Or some dirt wrapped in sphagnum? Will need to do this with my raphidophoras too - everyone's chilling in high humidity until I can't get them perfectly placed... but I do have two Raphs so maybe I'll keep one in my vivarium!
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Jun 12, 2020 6:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Monstera dubia can grow either as an epiphyte with no roots in soil or as a hemi-epiphyte that has roots in soil or leaf litter like other monstera. I personally would ditch the pot. I would not ditch the dirt necessarily, if it is well rooted in the soil just shake off the excess and put a pad of sphagnum underneath it and a pad of sphagnum over it.

I have grown them both ways. It is always scary to do something you have never done when a living expensive plant is involved LOL.

I have a Rhaphidophora korthalsii to mount and this dubia. My main worry is actually that the slugs will reappear. I had semi-adult leaves on my variegated monstera that were about 5-6 inches across that were totally eaten in a single night. I have been baiting the GH floor with snail bait intermittently especially now in the rainy season...lots of snails and slugs slinking about here in FL
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Jun 17, 2020 5:29 AM CST
Los Angeles, CA
Snails!

Oh my gosh something took a bite out of my growing variegated Monstera root leaf outside and it never occurred to me it could be snails! We have them, the horror! I'm going to move it tomorrow...
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Jun 17, 2020 5:32 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
you need to treat for them. Moving it won;t help. If they want it they will find it. And they can crawl up almost any surface
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Jun 18, 2020 12:23 PM CST
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Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
This thing is just growing at light speed now
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Jun 20, 2020 12:02 AM CST
Name: Adrienne
Ohio (Zone 6b)
It looks great!
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Jul 2, 2020 10:38 PM CST
Denver, Co
It looks great. You will have a nice looking plant in no time☺
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Feb 12, 2021 1:07 AM CST

I know this post is old but I received a monstera Dubai top cutting a few weeks ago, it was sent in Tupperware with moist sphagnum moss. It wasn't doing good so after research and advice from a plant group I put it in perlite/water. It started rooting a tiny bit bit then stopped and has now already lost two leaves. Any advice so I don't lose it completely?
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