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Jan 12, 2022 12:46 PM CST
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Name: Sally
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I am happy that this is getting nice big leaves. It will need a new pot and stake or something. I have not found a place nearby that sells any kind of stake nor pole. Can you advise, what to do next for it?

There is the one biggest vine, then a medium one going partway, then a tiny one trying to get going from a bit of stem at the base.
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Jan 12, 2022 1:10 PM CST
Name: Phil
Lakeland Florida (Zone 9b)
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Miss Sally, they are best in a hangin pot. Those thangs will git 30'long. I hav'um runnin all the way to the top of my oak tree. Their leaves will git 2' long if you put'um on a tree. You can buy 4' bamboo stakes but it will just keep on growin. If you cut it back, a new shoot will come out an continue growing up. The roots you see on the bottom pitcher on the tree, it's at the top of that tree.

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Jan 12, 2022 5:08 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
zeta7 said:Miss Sally, they are best in a hangin pot. Those thangs will git 30'long. I hav'um runnin all the way to the top of my oak tree. Their leaves will git 2' long if you put'um on a tree. You can buy 4' bamboo stakes but it will just keep on growin. If you cut it back, a new shoot will come out an continue growing up. The roots you see on the bottom pitcher on the tree, it's at the top of that tree.

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No, its NOT best for her particular Philodendron. Its fine for Epipremnum aureum like you have pictures, but hers looks like a White Wizard, which is a climbing plant, not a draping plant.
It depends on how esthetically pleasing you want it. You can take a 1 x 6 or 1 x 8 fence plank, cover it on coir fiber mat (the stuff you line hanging baskets with) and let it attach to that.

You can make a larger diameter totem with a large diameter PVC pipe covered in coir mat.

Or you can get something cool like a large piece of driftwood and let it attach to that. Eventually, you will have to cut the top and root the cutting to make a new plant because you will run out of room with whatever you use

This is one of mine, on said large diameter totem

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Jan 12, 2022 5:51 PM CST
Name: Phil
Lakeland Florida (Zone 9b)
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My apologies Miss Sally, looked the same to me.... D'Oh!
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Jan 12, 2022 5:57 PM CST
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Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Thanks, both.
Yes, Gina is right about it being White Wizard or close- I remember we have talked about it but I don't know where that discussion is in the site..
Now I'm tempted to choose it a companion, make a combo pot so that tall totem can have some stability.... Thinking
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Jan 12, 2022 7:50 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Sally I know you are growing in yours house, and you know I am growing in my greenhouse, so we have different capabilities and different aims. Whatever you do needs to look right in your house. Whatever I do, I want it to look like its out in the jungle. So I make totems like these
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However, I have also made THESE
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Thos totem is stabilized within a 35 gallon container filled with planting medium and is currently holding about 10 different plants, some that will climb and some that will drape over the edges. THIS may be more what you are looking to do
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Jan 12, 2022 9:04 PM CST
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Name: Sally
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Phil, that's perfectly ok! Smiling

I'll have to think about this project. I would like it a size I could still move in and out.
Gina, I have read your totem directions thread with fascination, even tho I have no greenhouse.
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Jan 13, 2022 6:40 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
I'll take a few more photos today of a couple other setups I have made this last season that are still juvenile LOL. I had acquired so many cuttings of climbers in trade that I had to make new digs for them all. I decided to do multi-plant delios, using old stuff I had laying around like old Rubbermaid shelf units and stuff. Hopefully starting this spring things will really take off and populate the supports and make something that emulated a living wall. That is what I am going for at any rate
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Jan 13, 2022 8:23 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
These are what I term 'poor man's living walls'. I am not really up to the construction process for a real living wall. Since I water stuff on a daily basis in summer anyway this is kind of the same thing just with different substrate. Most living walls are built on large frames faced with either Biofelt, cork, stuffed moss and outfitted with hoses on pumps kind of like hydroponics that pump water over the wall almost continuously. I don;t need that.

These are old Rubbermaid shelf units I found up in the over garage attic from the last owned of the house. I attached them to the greenhouse wall and covered the fronts only with coir matting/cork bark slabs. I can hang plants onto this frame that are containerized or mounted on treefern or cork.

AT the bottom I took old windowbox planters I had sitting around empty and planted them with a variety of things, both climbers and terrestrial fillers. My hope is that once the plants take off in the upcoming growing season they will populate the face of the support at the same time the basket fillers fill the bottom part. I can also hand things like mounted orchids, staghorns etc in empty spots
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This is another (I made 3 so far). This is an eventual huge growing Anthurium which has to have a tree for support in the wild. Once it starts to trunk and attaches to this wall it should be pretty spectacular. Leaves can get as big as car hoods
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This is a planter system I had in front

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Mix of climbers and terrestrials

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this Monstera dubia was already on a mount, just set in in here to start attaching to this support
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And this Epipremnum pinnatum variegated is outside the planter but will climb up the edge
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This is the longer view of the planter I first posted with the White Wizard. This could be done in your house. This is a 35 gallon planter. The totem is stabilized inside, but because I have no plans to ever move it, the top is also attached for extra stabilization to the gerenhouse ceiling cross struts. To move this, you would need a minimum of 3 people...2 on the container, one to stabilize the totem


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again, a mix of fillers and climbers
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orchid to drape over the side

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climbing large growing anthurium
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Things really love this coir mat and readily send roots into it
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Jan 13, 2022 8:41 AM CST
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Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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wow I tip my hat to you.

I feel like I've had a tropical vacation Smiling

The slab has me thinking.. I tend to be stuck in a 'must be seen from all sides' mode with potted plants. Where the tallest plant is in the middle always..

BUT the slab would help stabilize it-- could wire it to the sides of a sturdy plastic pot. . then Philo on the slab.. Possible use smaller plants in front of or on sides of the Philo.. and even sneak something in behind the slab where I'd think there is a small arc of space if that will get light.. (empty space- waste!) Next debate with myself would be how tall to start with that slab.. I think I want to be able to move it all outside during summer, because otherwise I 'lose' them in the house while spending all my time outside.

Maybe use a few PVC, drill them so I could wire on the coir, places to insert hooks to hang other small plants... and wire them onto a pot, have that one one edge and the Philo is climbing that.. maybe on it's own, maybe as the background to a couple other plants. This would be something new for me, altogether
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Jan 13, 2022 10:09 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Its always a fun process. I like coir mat because its long lasting relative to something like moss. Of course the LONGEST lasting materials are cork bark, which is sustainable, but has skyrocket in cost, and treefern, which is NOT a sustainable resource and has become rare. And large pieces of ornamental driftwood, but something of the size needed would be really hard to get at a reasonable cost.

Another option is a bit more adventurous......constructing a wire enclosure frame and filling it with Great Stuff foam, letting it harden, carving/sanding it to look like a tree trunk, then coating it with a plant friendly base that is used in terrarium/vivarium builds and dusting it with an overlay of moss and EcoEarth (ground coconut husk). This is the most common way people build artificial trees.
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Jan 13, 2022 12:16 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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...and if you don't want to make your own.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pla...
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Jan 13, 2022 12:30 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
There's no fun in that ALice!
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Jan 13, 2022 1:30 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Jan 15, 2022 1:36 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Thanks for the product links, Alice, I would not Have known to call it a totem.
I found some pvd in the shed and the perfect size very sturdy plastic nursery pot with nearly straight sides. I have a concept and will let the spouse start by drilling holes in it while I am at work ( keep the retired one busy) to wire to the pot and attach coir. Stay tuned..
This would be just about perfect for what I have in mind. Probably save myself a lot of running around to just order it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0931ZWNXS/

Oh, brilliant idea. I can probably pick up two of these right away locally
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0931ZWNXS/
Plant it and they will come.
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Jan 15, 2022 7:07 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
See you in the funny papers!
Charter ATP Member Frogs and Toads Houseplants Keeper of Poultry Vegetable Grower Region: Maryland
Composter Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Region: United States of America Cat Lover Birds
Could I hang/attach air plants on the bare parts of the coir mat covered pole?
https://www.airplantsupplyco.c...
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Jan 15, 2022 8:02 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Sally that is what I use but I get the 36" x 36 FEET size lol. My local Ace hardware can order it for me. I have 2 rolls in a box right now waiting for spring. I keep it on hand at all times to do different things with. Its very long lasting, but like all organic products eventually has to be spiffed up. Yes, you can attach things to the matting. I have mounted orchids, anthuriums, bromeliads and all manner of things directly to the mat. I'll take some photos later today
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Jan 16, 2022 3:38 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Sally
central Maryland (Zone 7b)
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Charter ATP Member Frogs and Toads Houseplants Keeper of Poultry Vegetable Grower Region: Maryland
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So we had this scrap of 2 inch square thin pvc about 40 inches, and had sliced in lengthwise for some project that didn't work out. Now they are nested to make about a 2 by 1 which we drilled and wire tied together with this heavy duty nursery pot. The coir mat wraps around pretty perfectly. I just need to decide what to tie or wrap the mat with. I have natural twine which would be very innocuous. Then plant.
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Look ok so far?
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Jan 16, 2022 3:57 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
Tropical plant collector 40 years
Aroids Region: Florida Tropicals
Natural twine will ROT very very quickly once it gets wet. I would use zip ties
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Jan 16, 2022 4:52 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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I agree and once the plant gets going you can remove the zip ties.
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.

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