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Apr 21, 2022 10:58 AM CST
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JungleShadows said: The watermarks are caused by the unequal distribution of surface waxes. This is similar to the "grandpa" gene effect where the synthesis of something occurs at higher levels in warm temperatures than cool. So in the case of watermarks, the wax synthesis and leaf elongation genes acting better at warm than cool result in uneven wax synthesis and distribution. Some lines show this more often, especially tectorum/ wulfenii lines.
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I created a new thread to discuss watermarks on semps. Please stay on topic and you can post your photos of your semps with watermarks. Hurray!
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Apr 21, 2022 11:14 AM CST
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From how old should semps start showing watermarks? Like, if one is selecting seedlings with watermarks, when should they expect them to appear?
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Apr 21, 2022 11:15 AM CST
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What a beautiful photo from Chris. This thread should be interesting.
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Apr 21, 2022 11:57 AM CST
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Kevin can give a better explanation on what age a new semp might show the markings.
The above photo is a two year old seedling, and it is just now starting to show the markings.
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Apr 21, 2022 12:20 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Sort of depends upon the seedling when it occurs. The arachnoideums seem not to do this and it is the same in their hybrids. Ditto the velvety ones.

Lots of my 1 year old seedlings show watermarks but it's more obvious when they are more mature. There's lots of 'Jungle Shadows' kids that show this pretty early on.

It adds lots of interest in my crosses.

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Apr 21, 2022 1:02 PM CST
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Apr 21, 2022 7:13 PM CST
Name: Bev
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Please excuse the lack of identification but I took this Noid semp photo awhile back (9 years and counting) just waiting for a place to be posted into.

I call it "Crazy Waxy Buildup"
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Apr 21, 2022 7:18 PM CST
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Bev that is a beautiful semp, watermarks and all. Lovey dubby
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Apr 21, 2022 7:27 PM CST
Name: Bev
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Photo is only memory I have of that semp. It was at the last house where there was soil to plant into; you know what I mean, Lynn!
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Apr 21, 2022 8:31 PM CST
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Sure do Bev.
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Apr 21, 2022 8:58 PM CST
Name: Connie
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Bev, that semp may be gone but let it be known it outwaxed just about all others!!
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Apr 21, 2022 9:02 PM CST
Name: Bev
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Beautifully put, Connie! Hilarious!
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Apr 22, 2022 4:29 AM CST
Name: Sharen
Hollidaysburg PA (Zone 6b)
Bev, your noid is lovely.

Here's a couple of mine from last year.

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Apr 22, 2022 5:40 AM CST
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webesemps said: Please excuse the lack of identification but I took this Noid semp photo awhile back (9 years and counting) just waiting for a place to be posted into.

I call it "Crazy Waxy Buildup"
Thumb of 2022-04-22/webesemps/72025f


I love the color! I also like the sedum oaxacanum in the front
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Apr 22, 2022 8:35 AM CST
Name: Bev
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Sharen, you have some nifty looking watermarked ones too. Which semp is in the first
photo?
Alex, that sedum is one of my favorites; it's just hard to find.
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Apr 22, 2022 8:42 AM CST
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Oaxanum is starting to get popular, I think it's on the "easy-to-find" section of Sedum now.
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Apr 22, 2022 9:35 AM CST
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Perennial Obsessions has Sedum oaxacum. https://perennialobsessions.co...
I love this semp year round.
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Apr 22, 2022 9:42 AM CST
Name: Sharen
Hollidaysburg PA (Zone 6b)
Bev, both photos are Gipsy. I love the color in the top photo, it is a favorite. Unfortunately I need to rebuild the colony, I lost most of it.
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Apr 22, 2022 3:11 PM CST
Name: Bev
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Alice, thank goodness for photos or else we would forget how great our garden used to look like... Shrug! Hilarious!
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Apr 22, 2022 5:11 PM CST
Name: Bev
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Guess I'll have to comb thru the Sedum section at PO; thanks Lynn!

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