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Jan 13, 2024 1:47 PM CST
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I recently trimmed out the dead roots of my five year old Orchid. I had been emerging the Orchid in water for 5 minutes every Sunday but noticed the water was not evaporating. I also been spraying Miracle Gro fertilizer every Wednesday on the media and leaves. I think I trimmed out too many roots. What should I do next considering how the leaves look?
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Jan 13, 2024 1:54 PM CST
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Moved to orchid forum where the orchid experts are more likely to see this and be able to help. Smiling
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Jan 13, 2024 4:49 PM CST
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I would probably remove the burned leaf along with any dead leaves. Personally I wouldn't water /fertilize on a rigid schedule, but rather when the plant needs it.
Other than that, I would enjoy the blooms for now and decide in the Spring if it needs to be repotted.
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Jan 13, 2024 5:41 PM CST
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Jan 13, 2024 6:23 PM CST
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How do I remove burned and dead leaves from my Orchid? Thanks
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Jan 13, 2024 6:27 PM CST
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I am lazy and don't feel like disinfecting cutting tools, so I use those cutting blades designed for boxcutters, I buy them by the pack. I just cut the dead leaves off. Throw the blade away when done! Smiling
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Jan 13, 2024 8:09 PM CST
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Those disgusting brownish patches on the first Phalaenopsis are from sunburn.
Phalaenopsis enjoy a bright windowsill but they do not like direct sunlight.
Depending upon temperature and strength of the sunlight, this burn could appear in a few minutes. Shortly thereafter, those scaly brown patches appear.
Orchids in general are not good candidates for foliar feedings. I have heard numerous speakers mention that. It is much better to have it absorbed through their roots.
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Jan 13, 2024 8:35 PM CST
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Catpaworchids said: Those disgusting brownish patches on the first Phalaenopsis are from sunburn.
Phalaenopsis enjoy a bright windowsill but they do not like direct sunlight.
Depending upon temperature and strength of the sunlight, this burn could appear in a few minutes. Shortly thereafter, those scaly brown patches appear.
Orchids in general are not good candidates for foliar feedings. I have heard numerous speakers mention that. It is much better to have it absorbed through their roots.


Agreed. I have read where to get any nourishment to the plant through the leaves, you would have to water the underside. And at that very little is absorbed. All I know is that I was taught long ago to fertilize the roots.
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Jan 13, 2024 8:37 PM CST
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My understanding is sunburn happens in the center of leaves and fertilizer burn happens on the edges. So yes, sunburn.

Phalaenopsis hate sun and overwatering. Move the plant to a shadier area, water when the medium is dry and stop with the fertilzer. My Phals are fertilized just a few times a year and bloom amazingly. I like clear plastic pots because I can see the moisture and if I see moisture, I don't water.
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Jan 13, 2024 8:55 PM CST
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Sunburn can happen anywhere the sunlight meets the leaf at a 90 degree right angle. Which as you mentioned Lucy, typically is in the center of the leaf. The edges tend to deflect slightly downward lessening that 90 degree right angle. The sunlight reflects off of the leaf surface causing less heat buildup and less possibility of a burn.
Don't ask me how I remember that?! I know my head is just full of random things like that. Shrug! Hilarious!
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Jan 13, 2024 10:58 PM CST
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It is Sunburn. I moved it closer to the window to get the new shoot to grow towards the light to balance the shoots out. I want a cascading effect on both sides of the plant. I'll move it back but still not sure about the leaves? Will they heal on their own or should I cut them out?
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Jan 14, 2024 3:42 AM CST
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The sunburnt tissue is dead. Nothing will bring it back to life.
As far as trying to get orchid spikes to curve around and follow the light, do not do that!!!! Just let them bloom.
By moving them around, you might end up having buds twist and turn facing in 19 different directions as they turn to the light. I doubt that that is what you want to have happen. The flowers will NOT open and face in a single direction.
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Jan 14, 2024 10:12 AM CST
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Hey Mike, I learned this lesson the hard way. I picked up plants from my benches, looked at them, and put them back down. If you do not keep them facing in the same direction, the orientation of the buds towards the light changes. Those changes result in buds that get twisted on a spike.
I use the plants name tag as my guide. If I pick a plant up with buds, I look at them, and put it back with the tag facing the exact same way. This way, the buds experience no change in their orientation to the light source.
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Jan 14, 2024 11:30 AM CST
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What do I put on the remaining leave (cut spot) to avoid infection? I have cinnamon or daconil. I was going to lightly put one of them on with a q-tip? I've used cinnamon after cutting shoots with no problem. Is there a cheap alternative if neither of these work? Thanks so much!
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Jan 14, 2024 11:48 AM CST
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Cinnamon will do just fine.
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Jan 14, 2024 12:15 PM CST
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I've never done anything more than use clean scissors. Unless there is an infection, I doubt cinnamon is necessary. Unless of course, you just like the smell. Smiling

I did rescue one phal with a rotted center by pouring peroxide down the middle.
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Jan 14, 2024 12:33 PM CST
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There is an old saying, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" Cinnamon is a good fungicide and bacteriacide. AND it is really cheap.
OR I have another, "it is like chicken soup, it can't hurt"!

I apply it to all my cuts from either leaves, growths or spikes.
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Jan 14, 2024 1:32 PM CST
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Thanks to everyone for your thoughtful and experienced replies!
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Jan 14, 2024 7:52 PM CST
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A little cinnamon and a flux brush makes it so easy
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mikebat said: How do I remove burned and dead leaves from my Orchid? Thanks

You don't need to do anything about them. In time they will drop off by themselves. No problem. In the meantime, the plant looks fine. Thumbs up

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