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Nov 12, 2016 10:26 AM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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I just heard about this plant being attractive for cats. Silver Vine (Actinidia polygama)

I was wondering if it could be grown in my zone and if the fruit is edible to people?
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Dec 10, 2016 2:11 PM CST
Name: woofie
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This site says it will grow in zones 4-9, and they offer seeds. A bit dear though:
http://www.georgiavines.com/ca...
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Dec 18, 2016 1:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
woofie said:This site says it will grow in zones 4-9, and they offer seeds. A bit dear though:
http://www.georgiavines.com/ca...


Thanks!
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Feb 14, 2017 11:15 AM CST
Name: Colleen
Edgewood, NM (Zone 5b)
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Hello, just came across your post. If you are still wanting some silvervine seeds, I can send you some for free. Just tree mail me if you still want some. I tip my hat to you.
Happy Gardening :-)
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Feb 15, 2017 1:48 AM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Agoo said:Hello, just came across your post. If you are still wanting some silvervine seeds, I can send you some for free. Just tree mail me if you still want some. I tip my hat to you.


Will they grow here?
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Feb 15, 2017 12:01 PM CST
Name: Colleen
Edgewood, NM (Zone 5b)
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I am in zone 5b here. I would give it a shot. I don't know why it wouldn't grow there. We get freezing tempatures, snow, ice. Dosnt seem to hurt it any. Just make sure you have the room for it. I wanted to quickly cove a 20 foot X 5 foot high section of fence. At first i thought I might need a couple more plants to get the job done, but nope. Just one 12" high silverlace got the job done within 3 years and its still getting bigger.
On the pic here the silverlace vine is in the background covering the fence.
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Happy Gardening :-)
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Feb 15, 2017 5:03 PM CST
Name: Colleen
Edgewood, NM (Zone 5b)
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I'm so embarrased, the vine you were asking about and the one I was telling you about are 2 different plants. Please forgive me. If I had the one your after I would certainly offer it to you.The Crying
Happy Gardening :-)
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Jul 20, 2018 7:36 AM CST

Keith,

Yes, the fruit is edible, but I've heard it is not as tasty as supermarket kiwi fruit.

None of the five seeds I received from Georgia Vines was viable.

Last year I mail-ordered ๐˜ˆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ข ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜บ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ฎ๐˜ข 'Pavel' from One Green World.
I was disappointed to find that my cats are not at all interested in it, even though they have responded to purchased silvervine powder from Japan.

There's an NIH article on a related species, ๐˜ˆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ข ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข. The scientists found little or no amounts of cat attractants in their plants. That could be due to the immaturity of their plants, compared to established groves in the wild.

Perhaps my plant is just too young to contain much cat attractant.
Or, perhaps I should have purchased a female kiwi plant. I haven't seen any research on whether or not gender matters.
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Mar 28, 2019 3:59 PM CST

I live in the UK and managed to get a small Silvervine/Actinidia Polygala plant from a nursery in Scotland. It grows brilliantly well here....when I can protect it from the cats! I have been told that it will withstand temperatures as low as minus 20ยฐ!
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Jun 21, 2019 7:25 PM CST

I live in Missouri and my cat loves silver vine Is there anyway possible that you still have some free seeds
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Jun 24, 2019 10:06 PM CST
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Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
KATLADY58 said:I live in Missouri and my cat loves silver vine Is there anyway possible that you still have some free seeds


Sorry I don't, Petsmart sells it though
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Jun 24, 2019 11:02 PM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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I grow silvervine kiwis. I have a named male and named female that produces high quality fruit. Wild strains are said to be pungent and spicy but my female makes sweet elongated fruits.
Keith they will grow in your area if you or anyone else wants cuttings this winter shoot me a tree mail. I've had problems with cats chewing through the base of my plants and had to put a net around the bottom 4 ft of the vines.
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Jul 5, 2019 6:22 AM CST

It's also widely used in Japan and China as a cat stimulant. When exposed to powdered silver vine, cats enter a euphoric state that involves behaviours like rolling, chin and cheek rubbing, meowing, drooling and licking.
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Jul 5, 2019 5:52 PM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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So its kitty opium Hilarious!
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Aug 2, 2019 4:50 PM CST

ediblelandscapingsc said:So its kitty opium Hilarious!


I'm very interested in receiving or buying some of those plants/cuttings/fruits! Can you email me please?

The thing cats love most are the fruit galls. These are induced by a gall midge (P. matatabi), that doesn't exist in the USA, so we'll not be able to get fruit galls. Cats may have a mild response to other parts of the plant, although this has not been confirmed yet.

Maybe this is of interest to you:
Google: "bol caspers bmc vet research" and you'll find a paper published about cats and silver vine. Especially the discussion section contains some fun information.
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Sep 30, 2019 11:35 AM CST
Name: Elizabeth Waters
Lafayette, Louisiana (Zone 9a)
Hi there, I've 2 cats who would LOVE some plants in their Cajun garden.
If you're still able, I'd like some cuttings.
Thanks for the information.

ediblelandscapingsc said:I grow silvervine kiwis. I have a named male and named female that produces high quality fruit. Wild strains are said to be pungent and spicy but my female makes sweet elongated fruits.
Keith they will grow in your area if you or anyone else wants cuttings this winter shoot me a tree mail. I've had problems with cats chewing through the base of my plants and had to put a net around the bottom 4 ft of the vines.
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Mar 29, 2020 1:38 PM CST

Hi, I just found this group. I am looking for some Silvervine/Actinidia Polygala seeds or cuttings. I am building a catio and want to have some plants growing in it. It would be fun to have a jungle of these. Thanks in advance!
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Mar 29, 2020 9:35 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Keith
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Zinnias Plays in the sandbox Roses Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Organic Gardener
Region: New York Native Plants and Wildflowers Lilies Seed Starter Spiders! Enjoys or suffers hot summers
vamelnick said:Hi, I just found this group. I am looking for some Silvervine/Actinidia Polygala seeds or cuttings. I am building a catio and want to have some plants growing in it. It would be fun to have a jungle of these. Thanks in advance!


I found silvervine mixed with catnip in PetSmart, possibly the seeds are mixed in?
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Apr 16, 2020 10:21 AM CST

ediblelandscapingsc said:I grow silvervine kiwis. I have a named male and named female that produces high quality fruit. Wild strains are said to be pungent and spicy but my female makes sweet elongated fruits.
Keith they will grow in your area if you or anyone else wants cuttings this winter shoot me a tree mail. I've had problems with cats chewing through the base of my plants and had to put a net around the bottom 4 ft of the vines.


Hi, I have some Actinidia Polygama plants, but no idea if they are male of female. One is in its 4th year and not flowered yet, the other 4 are last years seedlings, bought from a different supplier.

I would dearly love some fruit, but not even a flower yet Glare

Chrissy
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Apr 16, 2020 10:23 AM CST

DWRead said:Keith,

Yes, the fruit is edible, but I've heard it is not as tasty as supermarket kiwi fruit.

None of the five seeds I received from Georgia Vines was viable.

Last year I mail-ordered ๐˜ˆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ข ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜บ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ฎ๐˜ข 'Pavel' from One Green World.
I was disappointed to find that my cats are not at all interested in it, even though they have responded to purchased silvervine powder from Japan.

There's an NIH article on a related species, ๐˜ˆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ข ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข. The scientists found little or no amounts of cat attractants in their plants. That could be due to the immaturity of their plants, compared to established groves in the wild.

Perhaps my plant is just too young to contain much cat attractant.
Or, perhaps I should have purchased a female kiwi plant. I haven't seen any research on whether or not gender matters.


Ny understanding is that the most potent powder comes from a gall produced on the plant by an Asian insect (Pseudasphondylia matatabi), so it looks like we cant produce the galls here in the UK. Shame.

Chrissy
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