It was a painful decision but I have undertaken the job of removing my plumeria from the greenhouse. I am going to plant them outside and let them take their chances in winter. We didn;t freeze last winter so there's a chance. They have just gotten so huge, a couple of their trunks are the diameter of my calf. But one is 17 feet tall, even if it blooms I can't see the flowers. I am saving cutting for pots though. But it will be an experiment outside

Good luck!!

Thanks Hetty! I took cuttings of them all and rooted them before I decided. I left my Stenophylla, because it has orchids and philodendrons climbing all throughout, and the Pudica ditto, has epiphytes on it. I left about 7 smaller seeding plants that should have bloomed before now but have not, they are still small enough that if the bloom this year, and I decided they are keepers, I can decide not to kick them out. I got all this monstera out this morning except one....it has about a 13" diameter trunk at the base and I could not dig it out. I topped all the branches, they have a chance now to come back out, am going to use the trunk for vining anthuriums

Whoa! 17 ft? Trunks the size of your calf?! Those are huge!! The pots must be giant, too. I don't blame you for planting them in the ground. I have one outside. It's doing just fine. It is growing but no faster than my pots. It was an experiment, too. But I uproot it every winter. I might experiment eventually and leave it be outside.

I'll take a photo of the base of the trunk of the one I had to leave in there. I think they got so leggy and tall because they were only sporadic bloomers and grew up instead of out. Which is partially my fault because I had 2 Green Jade Vines that were planted one in front and one in back that met in the middle of the greenhouse in the rafters and were so dense they made too much shade. Also a lot of larger growing broadleaf tropicals like heliconias. They were just too shaded to bloom regularly. It took a while to dig them you...they were firmly established and the roots had to be severed with a combination of a pruning saw and big tree loppers. But they all came out intact and went right into the ground. I expect them to root back in pretty quick. I put them close to the greenhouse wall to capture the radiant heat in the cooler months.

You have the jade vines?! *drool* I'm in 9b and we didn't get a freeze this year either but my Pudica were all nipped by 38 and I had to cut all the tips. It did freeze last year and I saw every big plumeria in town freeze to the ground, but all started growing again from the roots. The small ones perished for good. Firestorm from JJ's is the most cold tolerant variety I've found - it started pushing inflos a month ago and I left it plunged outside with no protection. Yours sound too big for this, but I've started planting in the ground under my greenhouses, that way I can slip the cover over them and hook up a heat lamp.