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Jan 31, 2011 2:41 PM CST
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Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Ditto! I agree
I hate bud blast to pieces. Hilarious!
Next year my Aerangis distincta goes darker! Two years of bud blast, growing in the same spot, you'd think I'd learn! Duh. Crying
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Jan 31, 2011 4:03 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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I actually bloomed my Aerangis biloba this season - hanging right over the fish tank.
I think distincta is really tough to bloom.
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Jan 31, 2011 5:28 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Congrats!! I tip my hat to you. The teaser for me is that it produces a happy spike (the last two years) than dries up!! I've tried more watering but now most of the leaves fell off!! So I'll try different light if it survives!
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Jan 31, 2011 6:14 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
This plant... Slc. Hsin Buu Lady 'Y.T.' came from Lowe's last summer, and the only
change was taking it to the table a few feet away to photograph the spike Blinking
The spike stopped growing and is now turning yellow :thumbsdown:
Now I will wait until they bloom to take their pictures! I can't tell you how comforting
it is to hear that you all have this happen to your plants as well.
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Jan 31, 2011 6:18 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
My worst and first bud blasts were on cyms! I'd get a nice spike full of buds and move them to a warm room to watch them open...er, droop and drop!!!!! :angry:
Now I bring them in for photo shoots or for a day of admiration when they have already opened. Then back to the cool room.
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Jan 31, 2011 6:29 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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Kathy, when you say "cool room" - how cool are we talking?
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jan 31, 2011 8:20 PM CST
Name: bree
North coast NSW Australia
Region: Australia Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Herbs Dog Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Orchids Ponds
Yeah i let my orchid flowers fully open in my greenhouse then bring them inside until the flowers finish. I find the Paphs i have are the longest to stay flowering and the flowers don't age abit.... for months. Oh and Vandas are the same. I only get a few weeks out of my Catts. but i think i expect to much.. like my paphs. hehe!
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Jan 31, 2011 9:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Cool room=50-55 degrees F. Good for Masdevallias, Cymbidiums, some Dendrobiums, Lycastes, rupicolous laelias, Sarcochilus, Draculas, Neofinetia falcatas, etc.
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Feb 1, 2011 5:30 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
Lowe's had neem oil on sale for $1.50 a bottle..and I was wondering if it is ever used on orchids?
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Feb 1, 2011 6:34 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Thanks, Kathy - I will avoid all of the above, lol!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Feb 1, 2011 9:43 PM CST
Name: bree
North coast NSW Australia
Region: Australia Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Herbs Dog Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Orchids Ponds
lindsey- was it 100% neem oil or with other stuff added. Google it and read up because yes you can use it on plants but after reading about it its kind of scary. Saying it doesn't kill the pest straight away it effects the pests hormones. Sends things sterile i think. What would it do to us?
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Feb 2, 2011 3:09 AM CST
Name: Bill
New Windsor, NY (Zone 6b)
Hi Lindsey, I use Neem oil in my continuing battle with mealy bugs. It is somewhat effective. I forget the exact particulars, but it causes the insect to not want to eat. You need to give the plant a complete soak for it to work. And you need to re-apply after a week or so. I generally give the plants that spend the summer outside 2 or 3 doses in the weeks before I bring them in.

Bill
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Feb 2, 2011 6:32 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Just make sure it's diluted enough. Whistling
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Feb 2, 2011 2:03 PM CST
Name: bree
North coast NSW Australia
Region: Australia Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Herbs Dog Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Orchids Ponds
so it doesn't harm orchids at all. You soak your orchids in it, pot and all bill?
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Feb 2, 2011 2:19 PM CST
Name: Bill
New Windsor, NY (Zone 6b)
Hi Bree, Yes pot and all. It doesn't kill on contact but affects the insects metabolism and they die in several days because they can't eat. It really just seems to keep mealys under control, I've never totally eradicated them. Neem doesn't do anything to the eggs the insects have laid in the media, thats why you need to use it again after a week or so. I've sprayed it on buds also and the only buds that didn't make it were on Paph. delenatii. I never could decide if the Neem(I was rather heavy handed) or the mealys did the buds in.

Bill
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Feb 2, 2011 2:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I used it too strong once and it burned many leaves. I've always used a Bayer product, Rose and Flower spray.
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Feb 2, 2011 4:03 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
Well, thank you all for your input! I have been using the Bayer product myself (not as often as I should though!)
Bill, did you use the mixing directions on the bottle and use that strength on your orchids?
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Feb 2, 2011 4:09 PM CST
Name: Bill
New Windsor, NY (Zone 6b)
Yes Lindsey, I always follow the mixing directions on any pesticide/ botanical agent I use. I figure the people that make it know more than I do. I would rather not use any thing but sometimes you have no choice.
The first time I had mealy bugs, they were so bad, I had visions of them getting under the pots enmass and carring the plant off. Rolling on the floor laughing

Bill
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Feb 2, 2011 4:20 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Orchids Photo Contest Winner 2021 Photo Contest Winner 2023
I know about that! I have these ancient clivia plants that were so totally taken over,I had
to cut all the leaves off, take the plants out of the pots and soak them in some systemic.
It broke my heart. They did survive, but to my dismay, I discovered mealy bugs on them
this past weekend, not as bad as before but still, it doesn't take many to walk away with
your pot! Whistling
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Feb 2, 2011 5:11 PM CST
Name: Ken
Fredericton, N.B. Canada
Lindsey, Neem is one of those organic things can/may have many beneficial effects. If you google "neem", you can read for days. Here is just one link.
http://www.discoverneem.com/

I have used it and it does eradicate some insects others use it to fatten up, but it does make lovely shinny leaves when spritzed on leaves, guaranteed.

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