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Dec 26, 2019 1:26 PM CST
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Name: Nick Kurzenko
Falls Church, Virginia, US
What genus? And, if possible, species or cultivar? Green Spring Gardens, Alexandria, Virginia
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Dec 26, 2019 1:36 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Epidendrum secundum
I suggest that you slow down Nick. Now you are issuing so many posts that you are increasing the chances that some will be overlooked.
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Dec 26, 2019 1:54 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Photos with foliage would help also if you want accuracy. For instance, I have one that looks the same as yours that might be secundum or ellipticum (I don't know how to tell the difference), but I also have a mini ellipticum that looks the same, but a tiny version. That one has a label. Many of any alliance have very similar blooms, but different foliage/ pseudo bulbs, etc.
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Dec 26, 2019 2:10 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Another possibility is Epidendrum ibaguense.
I get confused secundum or ibaguense all the time and I think that secundum has non-resupinate (upside down flowers) and a raised callus on the lip. I think that I see a raised callus on the lip.
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Dec 26, 2019 3:06 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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I was able to find the Secundum group on Jay Phal's site and they are upside -down blooms. I'll have to go through some of my books for any more. I'm trusting Andy's Orchids to label the mini Ellipticom correctly.
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Dec 26, 2019 3:19 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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Ha! I just found E. secundum in Botanica Orchids, and it looks nothing like the one above! Off to see what else I can find. Confused Hilarious!
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Dec 26, 2019 3:32 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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The picture in Botanical is not secundum I think. Secundum is a reed stem Epidendrum I think. It has a frilly lip like radicans and ibaguense.
The image in Botanical is a smooth edge round lip
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Dec 26, 2019 5:46 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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I think you're right! I have seen them before though. I have other books to check, but had company. I know I've seen it somewhere here. Hilarious!
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