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Apr 22, 2020 6:24 AM CST
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Name: William Groth
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Hello everyone well today April 22 is Earth Day so How are we all
celebrating Earth Day in place. I am thinking about getting out in
the; garden and planting a bunch of succulents.

So what about everyone else?
Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant.
Robert Louis Stevenson
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Apr 22, 2020 7:31 AM CST
Name: Judith
southwest Colorado (Zone 4a)
Not too much I can do now, but I and my daughter were part of the first Earth Day in Santa Barbara CA. in 1970. It was in response to the oil spill in the SB channel on Jan 29, 1969, which is widely considered to be the start of the environmental movement . We had a couple of blocks closed off in the heart of SB and had an environmental fair - it was wonderful. The group that sponsored it, the Community Environmental Council, is still going and has had huge effects in that city. I, with lots of help, had an organic garden - about a quarter acre, one block off State St, the main st in SB. I remember the housewives and businessmen coming by and saying "WHAT are you doing here?" We could explain compost, organic planting, and related subjects. Some of the residents of a retirement hotel would come and help, as well as several "hippies". The local garden club donated tools and info, the city donated water, and various other businesses gave fertilizer (organic of course). We put all the produce on a table at the entry for anyone to take. It was one of my proudest accomplishments !
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Apr 22, 2020 4:57 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Well I may try to see if I can get this online.

New Michael Moore movie spanks Al Gore and destroys common enviro-narrative
'The takeover of the environmental movement by capitalism is now complete'
WND News Services By WND News Services
Published April 22, 2020 at 1:35pm

By Chris White
Daily Caller News Foundation

Michael Moore rolled out a new film Tuesday ahead of Earth Day that blasts former Vice President Al Gore and other celebrity environmentalists for supposedly being coopted by the fossil fuel industry. The film also deconstructs the idea that green energy can save the Earth.

The film titled "Planet of the Humans" crafts a contrarian narrative, stating that many of the sustainable energy products environmentalists argue are needed to stifle global warming are themselves heavily reliant on fossil fuels. Environmentalist documentarian Jeff Gibbs directed the movie while Oscar award-winning documentarian Moore executive produced the feature.

Gibbs spent the bulk of the film, which Moore uploaded free on YouTube Wednesday, laying out why he believes humans, not fossil fuels, are likely the bane of Earth's existence.

"Green energy is not going to save us," Gibbs noted in the film before focusing his ire on environmentalists Bill McKibben, Van Jones, and Robert F. Kennedy, and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, all of whom push for a combination of solar panels, nuclear or wind power to replace oil production.

McKibben is dismissing Gibbs' claims that he is beholden to billionaire funders. "I don't understand the reasoning behind these particular attacks; when I first heard rumors of them last summer I wrote the producer and director to set the record straight, and never heard back from them," he wrote in a statement posted on 350.org's website. McKibben co-founded the group in 2007.

The film also describes McKibben as a supporter of biomass, which Moore and Gibbs argue gives off large amounts of carbon. McKibben said in the statement that he once supported that form of energy until learning that biomass produces the kind of pollutants that he opposes.

Gibbs argues that solar and wind energy parts and electric cars rely too heavily on electricity generated from coal, natural gas, and other petroleum products to produce them.

In addition, some of the key components of an EV rely on exotic, complex, "rare earth" minerals such as graphite, cobalt, and lithium, which are produced in countries with lax environmental regulator systems. Many of the workers and people who mine these products suffer from health problems from the mines.

Lithium is a rare metal, making it difficult and time-consuming to discover and produce. Mining it results in staggeringly negative side effects for both the environment and those producing the metals that will eventually go into making products from the likes of automaker Tesla.

Moore noted the problems with producing solar panels and wind turbines during an interview Wednesday with Reuters. "I assumed solar panels would last for ever. I didn't know what went into the making of them," Moore said, referring to quartz and the petroleum products needed to manufacture the panels.

"The takeover of the environmental movement by capitalism is now complete," Gibbs said at one point in the film that included video images of Gore laughing with billionaire business tycoon Richard Branson, who famously pledged in 2006 to divert $3 billion in profits from Virgin Airlines to develop an alternative energy source. He made the pledge after a meeting that year with Gore.

The film also splices together video clips of Gore defending his decision in 2013 to sell his liberal news network, Current TV, to Al Jazeera, which is bankrolled by oil-rich Qatari.

Neither Gore nor McKibben have responded to the Daily Caller News Foundation's request for comment about Gibbs and Moore's characterization of the environmental movement. Gibbs concluded the film with a dire message: "We humans must accept that infinite growth on a finite planet is suicide. We must accept that our human presence is far beyond sustainability."
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Apr 22, 2020 5:31 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I have viber on my phone, and they have Earth Day stickers so I sent some to close friends. Big Grin I may not be able to go out today, but I can always share the sentiment to others.

The weather today has warmed up nicely! Plants looks so happy indeed. So even just going out in the garden, feels like celebrating with Mother Nature. Smiling
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Apr 22, 2020 6:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: William Groth
Houston, TX zone 9a
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Well I have spent most of the day planting new succulents
Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds that you plant.
Robert Louis Stevenson
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Apr 22, 2020 7:10 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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I went and bought some veggie plants in the rain. Too wet to be planting any time soon with more rain on the way. But I still go out and do what I can when I can.
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Apr 24, 2020 11:11 PM CST
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RpR said:Well I may try to see if I can get this online.

New Michael Moore movie spanks Al Gore and destroys common enviro-narrative
'The takeover of the environmental movement by capitalism is now complete'
WND News Services By WND News Services
Published April 22, 2020 at 1:35pm

By Chris White
Daily Caller News Foundation

Michael Moore rolled out a new film Tuesday ahead of Earth Day that blasts former Vice President Al Gore and other celebrity environmentalists for supposedly being coopted by the fossil fuel industry. The film also deconstructs the idea that green energy can save the Earth.

The film titled "Planet of the Humans" crafts a contrarian narrative, stating that many of the sustainable energy products environmentalists argue are needed to stifle global warming are themselves heavily reliant on fossil fuels. Environmentalist documentarian Jeff Gibbs directed the movie while Oscar award-winning documentarian Moore executive produced the feature.

Gibbs spent the bulk of the film, which Moore uploaded free on YouTube Wednesday, laying out why he believes humans, not fossil fuels, are likely the bane of Earth's existence.

"Green energy is not going to save us," Gibbs noted in the film before focusing his ire on environmentalists Bill McKibben, Van Jones, and Robert F. Kennedy, and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, all of whom push for a combination of solar panels, nuclear or wind power to replace oil production.

McKibben is dismissing Gibbs' claims that he is beholden to billionaire funders. "I don't understand the reasoning behind these particular attacks; when I first heard rumors of them last summer I wrote the producer and director to set the record straight, and never heard back from them," he wrote in a statement posted on 350.org's website. McKibben co-founded the group in 2007.

The film also describes McKibben as a supporter of biomass, which Moore and Gibbs argue gives off large amounts of carbon. McKibben said in the statement that he once supported that form of energy until learning that biomass produces the kind of pollutants that he opposes.

Gibbs argues that solar and wind energy parts and electric cars rely too heavily on electricity generated from coal, natural gas, and other petroleum products to produce them.

In addition, some of the key components of an EV rely on exotic, complex, "rare earth" minerals such as graphite, cobalt, and lithium, which are produced in countries with lax environmental regulator systems. Many of the workers and people who mine these products suffer from health problems from the mines.

Lithium is a rare metal, making it difficult and time-consuming to discover and produce. Mining it results in staggeringly negative side effects for both the environment and those producing the metals that will eventually go into making products from the likes of automaker Tesla.

Moore noted the problems with producing solar panels and wind turbines during an interview Wednesday with Reuters. "I assumed solar panels would last for ever. I didn't know what went into the making of them," Moore said, referring to quartz and the petroleum products needed to manufacture the panels.

"The takeover of the environmental movement by capitalism is now complete," Gibbs said at one point in the film that included video images of Gore laughing with billionaire business tycoon Richard Branson, who famously pledged in 2006 to divert $3 billion in profits from Virgin Airlines to develop an alternative energy source. He made the pledge after a meeting that year with Gore.

The film also splices together video clips of Gore defending his decision in 2013 to sell his liberal news network, Current TV, to Al Jazeera, which is bankrolled by oil-rich Qatari.

Neither Gore nor McKibben have responded to the Daily Caller News Foundation's request for comment about Gibbs and Moore's characterization of the environmental movement. Gibbs concluded the film with a dire message: "We humans must accept that infinite growth on a finite planet is suicide. We must accept that our human presence is far beyond sustainability."


@RpR I think of that sorry scoundrel Gore every time I screw in a light bulb now that I paid 10X as much for, and apparently 'years' is only about 6 months and buying them again. Not seeing how that is saving the planet, it is only eating my wallet. There is no saving us or the planet from here out.

We looked into getting those solar panels, what a joke. They cost an absolute fortune, you'd have to forgo an electric bill for 20 years to pay it off, not to mention, how much energy and resources are going into manufacturing it to start with. Doesn't seem like the answer to me.
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