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Apr 27, 2020 5:08 AM CST
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Hey all!

I'm relieved to have found a forum like this one dedicated to Plumerias. Been trying to find info online to help me out, but couldn't really find anything. The situation goes like this:

I bought two Plumeria cuttings (different colours) in December on a tropical market. They looked healthy. I planted them on the soil on different pots, with regular soil mix (didn't use perlite or anything). Since then I've been watering them regularly, careful to give a chance to the soil to dry a bit between waterings. I placed them on a sunny window. At some point I gave them a bit of rooting hormone (liquid) but I don't think it made any difference. Anyway I like to avoid giving chemicals and artificial stuff to my plants, I tend to look for more natural alternatives.

We are now at the end of April...to be honest, not a lot has happened. I'll post here two pictures of them. They do seem alive, and I would say that perhaps soon they will start showing some leaves...but it's so slow I'm wondering if it's normal. Everywhere online people say they start growing after 2 weeks-2 months. It's spring and I would like to plant them directly on the soil on a place we have close to the ocean. It's humid, not too hot and there is no frost, ever.

Thank you for reading this up, any help is dearly appreciated.
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Apr 27, 2020 12:43 PM CST
Name: tarev
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I don't know where you are located. But since you said it is humid Spring weather on your side, then bring the plants out now. Winter time is rest time for them. I am glad to see at least your plant did not succumb to any rotting while being watered and given fertilizers when it is still obviously asleep at that time.

My only concern though is your soil. You said your conditions are humid, so it may have some detrimental effect on the roots if media is too dense. They need a grittier media, so it does not sit too long in a wet media.Or even if it rains, then it will drain out faster. If it were mine, I would improve the soil first, add much more pumice or perlite to it. It will also be a good time to inspect what is happening at the root zone area. Then after that has been addressed, I would position that plant outdoors in part sun/shade area first, so it gets a chance to acclimate to your outdoor temperature and light levels. I would water it thoroughly once, and leave it alone and wait it out, as long as it takes. Got to wait for at least one good viable leaf to fully open before you can resume active watering again. I do not know what variety of Plumeria you have. Some do take much longer to awaken properly. Later on when it has formed a good leaf, with active watering resumed, you can position it to a more full sun area.
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Apr 27, 2020 2:18 PM CST
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tarev said:I don't know where you are located. But since you said it is humid Spring weather on your side, then bring the plants out now. Winter time is rest time for them. I am glad to see at least your plant did not succumb to any rotting while being watered and given fertilizers when it is still obviously asleep at that time.

My only concern though is your soil. You said your conditions are humid, so it may have some detrimental effect on the roots if media is too dense. They need a grittier media, so it does not sit too long in a wet media.Or even if it rains, then it will drain out faster. If it were mine, I would improve the soil first, add much more pumice or perlite to it. It will also be a good time to inspect what is happening at the root zone area. Then after that has been addressed, I would position that plant outdoors in part sun/shade area first, so it gets a chance to acclimate to your outdoor temperature and light levels. I would water it thoroughly once, and leave it alone and wait it out, as long as it takes. Got to wait for at least one good viable leaf to fully open before you can resume active watering again. I do not know what variety of Plumeria you have. Some do take much longer to awaken properly. Later on when it has formed a good leaf, with active watering resumed, you can position it to a more full sun area.


I see. Do you think I should have waited to plant them only in the Spring? It just didn't make much sense to me to let them packed as they were on a newspaper...at some point I was afraid they could die, but then again It's my first time trying to care for Plumerias. Unfortunately I don't know the varieties, just that one is giving white flowers with yellow at the center and the other is pink. I suppose this doesn't help much.

I'm located in Portugal, by the Ocean. Spring is wet, and where we are there is a kind of microclimate that makes it possible to grow things such as avocados and sugar cane. It never gets too hot though, Summer temperatures tend to not exceed 30Celsius, and even that is not so usual. But humidity prevails. I thought if my neighbours can grow tropical plants I could give a try to these beautiful Plumerias we got in Madeira.

I checked and my varieties are probably 2 different kinds of Plumeria Rubra.

I will add about 50% perlite to their soil now, and check on the roots. Do you think they would like some coir, too? When you mention putting them outside, I suppose you mean for them to be kept in pots until the first leaves?

Thank you so much for the advice.
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Apr 28, 2020 5:35 PM CST
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I would definitely let them get some good "sets" of leaves before going into the ground with them. Making sure the roots are established is the best thing you can do for them. Then, you will want to acclimate them to being in direct sunlight over a period of a couple weeks, moving them gradually from partial shade to full sun. Then, you can plant them in the ground. Good luck!
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Apr 28, 2020 5:39 PM CST
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These are 2 that I started in early March, just for reference. Just starting to show life.
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Apr 28, 2020 8:31 PM CST
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I have some plumeria that are fully leafed out, some that are just starting, and some that still look sleepy like yours. Different varieties have different wake up calls. First thing, stop watering. Do not water until you see the first full set of leaves or you risk rotting the cutting. As long as the cutting stays firm, you are ok. Just stop watering for now. The warm soil temperature is what helps them leaf out. Make sure you acclimate your little tree to warmer temperatures and 6 hours of sunlight, perhaps outside? They would love your humidity! You have drainage holes at the bottom of the pot? They love well-drained soil and do not like to be left in soggy bottoms so it has to drain out. Keep us up to date about your tree. Welcome! Welcome!
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May 9, 2020 4:32 AM CST
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TeamCll said:These are 2 that I started in early March, just for reference. Just starting to show life.
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Thanks for the advice! yeah, mine are still sleeping I guess. Do you discourage keeping the cuttings in direct sunlight before they root/spring?
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May 9, 2020 4:39 AM CST
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ShadyGreenThumb said:I have some plumeria that are fully leafed out, some that are just starting, and some that still look sleepy like yours. Different varieties have different wake up calls. First thing, stop watering. Do not water until you see the first full set of leaves or you risk rotting the cutting. As long as the cutting stays firm, you are ok. Just stop watering for now. The warm soil temperature is what helps them leaf out. Make sure you acclimate your little tree to warmer temperatures and 6 hours of sunlight, perhaps outside? They would love your humidity! You have drainage holes at the bottom of the pot? They love well-drained soil and do not like to be left in soggy bottoms so it has to drain out. Keep us up to date about your tree. Welcome! Welcome!


Indeed I've been watering them from time, I was afraid they would get too dry in the sun. I'll stop doing that then. And move them inside when it rains ;) The pots do have drainage holes. I'm just thinking they take sooo long to spring, I mean after all I planted them in December...but might be the variety like you mentioned. It's been the same with my Dragon Tree seeds. I guess some plants just take their time. Thank you so much for all your help, I'll keep you posted as soon as I have surprises! love
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May 9, 2020 10:15 AM CST
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Cheryl has given you great advice. Just wait, and then take some pics for us when it wakes up and gets happy!
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May 10, 2020 6:40 AM CST
Name: Jason
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I started my cuttings on a northeast elevation to avoid cooking the new leaf claws. Then gradually moved them closer to the south elevation to increase the amount of sun they get. I get smoking hot afternoons here in Houston and have had leaf burn issues in the past.
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May 11, 2020 10:15 AM CST
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Aug 14, 2020 9:45 PM CST
Name: Ssierra or Trip
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Zoe, it's been a few months and no follow-up. how did your plants fare after all?

i guess you're in madeira? sounds like a great place to live, never too hot or cold. you need well drained soil. a sandy volcanic soil should be easy for you to find there and will be a good soil for the plumeria.

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