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Aug 24, 2020 12:21 PM CST
Thread OP
KY (Zone 6b)
Region: Kentucky Daylilies
I have debated with myself whether to ask, but I won't learn if I don't! I am not a hybridizer or anyone who knows a great deal about cultivating daylilies. I just enjoy growing them in my garden! So, when I look through posts and photos, I am at a loss when I see these abbreviations. Could someone explain?
FFE
FFO
LFO
NOID

Thanks!
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Aug 24, 2020 12:32 PM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
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Garden Ideas: Level 1
FFE - first flower ever (first bloom in your garden)
FFO - first flower open (that season in your garden)
LFO - last flower open (that season in your garden)
NOID - no identification (or I like to think 'no idea')

Hope that helps

Charley
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Aug 24, 2020 12:46 PM CST
Thread OP
KY (Zone 6b)
Region: Kentucky Daylilies
Thank you, Charley! That all makes perfect sense! Sandy
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Aug 24, 2020 12:49 PM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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I grow lots of DLs and I'm glad to see this. How about EMO.......Early Morning Opener. Noids is commonly used. I heard it first in the iris world.
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Aug 24, 2020 12:52 PM CST
Thread OP
KY (Zone 6b)
Region: Kentucky Daylilies
Thank you, also, Paul!
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Aug 24, 2020 1:53 PM CST
Dallas TX (Zone 8a)
Thank you all. This was helpful!
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Aug 24, 2020 1:55 PM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 6a)
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Aug 24, 2020 1:56 PM CST
Name: Mike
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Aug 24, 2020 2:21 PM CST
PA (Zone 6a)
I still don't understand the difference between FFE and FFO??
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Aug 24, 2020 3:26 PM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
Don’t trust all-purpose glue.
Garden Ideas: Level 1
FFE
If I buy a daylily and plant it, it may bloom this year or not but somewhere down the line it will bloom. That first flower is its first flower ever - FFE

FFO
The next year if it blooms, and it should, the first flower for that year is its first flower open - FFO

A daylily plant can only have one FFE ever but it will have a FFO every year it blooms.

Actually an FFE is also a FFO. FFOs mark the beginning of the bloom season for a specific daylily, hence the EE, E, EM, M, ML, L, VL designations for bloom season for each daylily. These are sometimes inaccurate due to variations in spring temperatures, rainfall, number of elk who trampled the plant during the winter (an uncommon variable but one I keep track of due to the location of my garden. Will probably doesn't do this.)

Charley
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Aug 24, 2020 7:47 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
pinkruffles said:I still don't understand the difference between FFE and FFO??


FFE, first flower ever, means first time it bloomed for you since you added it to your garden.

FFO, first flower open, means first time that year/season...but NOT the first time since you got it.

Every FFE is an FFO, buy not every FFO is an FFE. It's one of those confusing azalea/rhododendron things.

[Edit: all azaleas are rhododendrons, but not all rhododendrons are azaleas.]
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Aug 24, 2020 7:48 PM CST
Name: Ken
Winston-Salem, NC (Zone 7b)
Daylilies & hardy hibiscus
Charley,

Jinx! You owe me a (Diet) Coke.
Hardy hibiscus are a hobby, but daylilies are an obsession.
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Aug 24, 2020 8:49 PM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
Don’t trust all-purpose glue.
Garden Ideas: Level 1
MrKGDickie said:Charley,

Jinx! You owe me a (Diet) Coke.


Come on by and pick it up.

Charley
I’d rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.
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