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Nov 16, 2020 8:16 PM CST
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I did an experiment, I removed pollen sacs on eggplant flowers a day before opening. The flowers set fruit despite not being pollinated which surprised me! Will they be seedless?
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Nov 18, 2020 8:23 AM CST

If you are seeing berries (that's what eggplants technically are) it means the flowers were pollinated successfully. Remember eggplants flowers are not merely "perfect" (technical term to indicate they have both female and male gametophytes), but they self-pollinate readily like most others members of the nightshade family. Lightly shaking the flowers is usually enough to pollinate them.

While there are plenty of eggplants marketed as "seedless" due to low number of seeds, I am not aware of any commercial cultivar that is truly seedless such as, say, some watermelons are: Rijk Zwaan, a HUGE Dutch seed company, has been working on complex seedless hybrids at least since 2008 but they still haven't any available for sale.
But, who knows, you may strike gold with a one in a million mutant: in that case i recommend heading straight to the patent office because you would make a bundle. Crossing Fingers!
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Nov 18, 2020 8:52 AM CST
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ElPolloDiablo said:If you are seeing berries (that's what eggplants technically are) it means the flowers were pollinated successfully. Remember eggplants flowers are not merely "perfect" (technical term to indicate they have both female and male gametophytes), but they self-pollinate readily like most others members of the nightshade family. Lightly shaking the flowers is usually enough to pollinate them.

While there are plenty of eggplants marketed as "seedless" due to low number of seeds, I am not aware of any commercial cultivar that is truly seedless such as, say, some watermelons are: Rijk Zwaan, a HUGE Dutch seed company, has been working on complex seedless hybrids at least since 2008 but they still haven't any available for sale.
But, who knows, you may strike gold with a one in a million mutant: in that case i recommend heading straight to the patent office because you would make a bundle. Crossing Fingers!




But I removed the pollen so they could not self pollinate Thinking I had no other eggplant around either
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Nov 18, 2020 8:57 AM CST
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I think they will still have seeds but I really have no idea. I am thinking of chickens here, they still lay eggs even though they are not fertilized. Some people seem confused that you don't need a rooster to have eggs. You only need a rooster to have babies-fertilized eggs.

So I wonder if your fruit will have seeds, but they will not sprout if you plant them?
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Nov 18, 2020 10:10 AM CST

keithp2012 said:

But I removed the pollen so they could not self pollinate Thinking I had no other eggplant around either


Eggplant flowers will usually drop from the plant 24-48 hours after blooming (exact time depends on weather conditions, cultivar etc) if they are not pollinated. That's how you know there's a pollination issue.

However some eggplant cultivars (such as Talina) exhibit a tendency towards parthenocarpy, meaning they will try and set fruit if in case of poor or no pollination. I don't know exactly what you are growing so it may be what you are experiencing: Talina is well known for passing parthenocarpy on to its descendants so you may be seeing the side effects of an improvement program.
I am also aware of several commercial parthenocarpic cultivars, the most important being Anominori, but to the best of my knowledge these are not easy to obtain for small scale growers, be them commercial or otherwise.
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Nov 18, 2020 11:58 AM CST
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Concur: There are parthenocarpic eggplant varieties (I am currently growing Rhapsody) but they are relatively rare and intended for greenhouse production. Most varieties will abort fruits that are not pollenized. Your operation in removing the stamen may have been too late or could itself have released pollen.
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Nov 18, 2020 8:32 PM CST
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farmerdill said:Concur: There are parthenocarpic eggplant varieties (I am currently growing Rhapsody) but they are relatively rare and intended for greenhouse production. Most varieties will abort fruits that are not pollenized. Your operation in removing the stamen may have been too late or could itself have released pollen.


I know for sure I removed the pollen before it opened or I would have had white powder on my fingers, the pollen had no yet released. So it must be the rare occurance.

My eggplant had long, white eggplant. It was labeled as patio eggplant but clearly could not be that as it's too large
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