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Jan 9, 2021 1:56 AM CST
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Name: Jaya
Adelaide Australia (Zone 11b)
Hi All you experts!
I'm in a hot, dry, arid place in Australia - Adelaide, that is. A new developement with no large trees yet.
We also have mild wet winters, with very seldom a night or two being freezing or below.
We have extreme UV and any usual plant or vegetable that says full sun on the label, needs to be under 50% shade cloth in the height of summer, or have only morning sun. Even tomatoes and corn benefit from shade here. There are hardy cacti that I have in places shaded from afternoon sun, or else they shrivel up and cark it.

If anyone can help me with these questions, I would be most grateful.
I have just recieved three brugs from two different nurseries. All labelled as the variety 'Frilly Pink" One place labelled it as B.candida, and the other as B.versicolour... but definitely the same plant.

FIRST question... does anyone know if this variety is also called by any other name? No-one here seems to know, but I've never come across this name outside Australia. It may be an Australian cultivar, however I can't seem to find any information on it at all. If there's an AKA, I'd be pleased to know it.

SECOND question... I have placed one where it recieves bright shade in the height of our severe summers (49c/120f top temps and virtually no humidity and UV well above safe limits), and the sun gradually comes around to be a bright, warm sun-trap there in the winter. It's my front porch, and out of the way of winds, light frosts and all the other vagaries of extreme weather... does this sound like a good place for it? I'm spraying it with water in the morning on the very dry days.

THIRD question...The other two are (1) in a large pot at the western side of my house only getting about an hour of intense sun in the mid- afternoon, and the other in a large garden bed with 50% shadecloth over a pergola on the top, so getting a couple of hours of morning sun. Does anyone with arid area growing experience know if I'm doing the right thing? There is an olla in the garden bed near that last one...

I'm hoping they will survive our very mild winters, but until recently had never even heard of these plants, and I'm struggling to find detailed information online except about overwintering in very cold climates.
All I can really find is 'go big with the fertilizer and water', but that info is more for areas with much more humidity than ours. I know people grow them here, but they have access to micro-climates that I just don't have.
If anyone can chime in with help or advice, I'd be immensely obliged to you.
I'm hoping it will be a success, as I have totally fallen in love with these plants.
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Jan 9, 2021 7:01 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jaya
Adelaide Australia (Zone 11b)
*UPDATE*
After no luck for weeks and finally asking here, I eventually found a site which tells me - Australia's Frilly Pink, is usually Ecuador pink. One mystery solved. I only hope they survive - I just had to run out and put shade cloth over the one getting morning sun - the leaves were starting to crisp! It's only over the worst month of summer, which is January here, although occasionally well into February.
Honestly, it makes me wish I had all the work of overwintering... it's too hot for me, too!
As for the other questions - well, I'll just fly by the seat of my pants for now!
Thanks All!
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Jan 9, 2021 7:42 PM CST
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Welcome! to the site Jaya. I am sending you a link to Gardening Australia. You should be able to get some good solid gardening help just by watching these videos.

If I lived there I would put some trees in immediately in order to have some shade for understory plants later. Bottlebrush is a good specimen and so are Acacia trees. I would definitely try to get some Eucalyptus trees too.

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https://www.bing.com/videos/se...

Hope the videos help.
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Jan 9, 2021 8:48 PM CST
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The area under shade should be your best bet. I am in Florida with extreme summer heat and find that mine do well in bright shade.
A good place to check on names is http://brugmansia.us in their gallery.
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Jan 10, 2021 4:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jaya
Adelaide Australia (Zone 11b)
Thank you both! I tip my hat to you. Thank You!

gone2seed, I figured it was a sensible thing to do. The fully shaded one seems to be doing the best! I'll put shadecloth on the other two when needed. The one in the ground won't need it when it gets tall enough for the leaves to be shaded by the cloth in the morning, or when the grape fills in it's trellis, whichever comes first, lol.

slowcala, thank you - I'm very familiar with Gardening Australia - they don't have any Brug advice for desert conditions, unfortunately. I'm new to Brugs, not gardening in general, and GA is never very specific, due to time/article size constraints.
To give you an idea how extreme the climate is...

We have tiny gardens... I planted as many trees as possible in front that would take the arid conditions and produce food (like pomegranate), and xeriscaped the rest. I have cacti and succulents galore. At least my yard is alive - you should see some of the others - dead crisped plants. We don't have any humidity to alleviate the effects of intense UV. Over 100f is a normal summer day at the peak.

Many of our native trees don't actually grow in my particular area, naturally. And they need irrigation to stay alive. I used structures where I could for instant shade, but that gets expensive. Our big box hardware places are about three times the prices of yours, sometimes more, and all timber is expensive now. Even DIY is out of the reach of many, unless able to scrounge free stuff.

Three years and some of the street trees are only just starting to get their legs. A lot of them died in the last intense summer. I watered mine, so they're alive at least.

The backyard is the problem child, and where I need to keep these brugs bar the one on the porch - the yard is 8 feet by 59 feet yard, and a few walled garden beds not very big. The largest garden bed - I had a structure made, and 50% shade cloth over that. The rest is concrete.

I have a pink wisteria tree and a few citrus, a snowball viburnum for cut flowers and shading the beds - but everything grows very slowly in our arid conditions, and I can't waste precious (expensive!) water on things that don't give me a return. A lot of space goes to veg. The wisteria was sheer indulgence, but the Brugs captivated me so much I had to try. At least the wisteria gives some shade and will fill in quickly... not an arid area plant, but does well. When the grape fills in it's trellis, it should shade the brug from the worst morning sun. I've spent the last three years trying cultivars of everything that's reported desert hardy.

I spray everything with a kaolin clay product that prevents sun-scorch, and helps reduce transpiration loss - even some of the hardy cacti.

I put in a couple of DIY ollas this year, and that made a big difference to everything, so I'm gonna go into factory mode and make a bunch. But you get an idea how bad it is, when I'm filling a 1 gallon olla every 12 hours plus some top watering. But it's much less watering than I had to do before, so yay!

Thanks again for the advice and well wishes!
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Jan 10, 2021 6:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jaya
Adelaide Australia (Zone 11b)
And having said all that, I'm pretty much just gonna treat it the same as I would a tomato or other solanaceae veg, here...
bright shade, and tomato feed and watering regime.
And thanks again!
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