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Mar 7, 2021 11:19 AM CST
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Tampa FL
I am interested in adding Philodendron Birkin to my garden located in Central Florida.
Anyone with experience in growing this one inground as a landscape plant? Sun conditions needed to maintain coloration? Soil conditions needed to maintain healthy plant? Tolerable temperatures?
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Mar 7, 2021 4:24 PM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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I have no info to share but wanted to say what an awesome looking plant that is. Hope you find your answers. Gina might know.
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Mar 11, 2021 7:24 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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I have one, its in the greenhouse. I bought it at Publix last year for $17.99. Its in a very bright spot in the greenhouse still in the container I got it in, which is Costa Farms so probably a little dense and water retentive...its on my repot list this spring. It has grown really quickly and I have not had any of the 'reverted leaves' that are common on this plant. Its position is also one of the coolest in the GH in winter, its right by the sliding door which has gaps. I try me best to seal them in winter but some cold air always seeps through. It didn't affect it. I keep the heater on 60F at night in winter and that manages to keep all 4 corners at 50-55. (1738 sq ft) I would say to try one if you can get it cheap, like I did, in a spot that gets bright light but not necessarily full sun. I feed mine with Dyna Gro Foliage Pro (I give this to all my plants) one a week in the growing season (March 1-about Nov 30). If you covered it up in a frost/freeze it would probably make it...I put 2 big bird nest anthuriums out in a protected location in my yard and they made it through this winter. We had a much colder winter than the last 3 years, 2 nights of 25/26 and a couple 32's but they were in a protected enough spot under canopy to make it through really well, I didn't cover them or anything
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Mar 11, 2021 8:16 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Central Florida (Zone 9b)
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Nice plant Scott. I don't have one, but plants like that, I keep in a pot, just in case since we can go into the upper 20's here. That said, I have some cold sensitive plants in the ground that have tolerated temps way below the temperatures they are stated to take, usually around 50°.

My theory is these cold sensitive plants tend to adapt as they age to cold temperatures. I find it takes time to find the right spot for it anyway, bright shade, under tree cover, with morning filtered sun is best. These plants come from greenhouse protection, so getting one now gives it time to adapt to outdoor living, and then give it at least one winter, then try it in the ground next Spring. I take a clipping off my favorites just in case.

I have plants like Monstera deliciosa in the ground under an oak, that states temps not lower than 50°, it showed no problem down to 32° briefly, this winter, but I did put a beach umbrella over it that night, still many many nights for hours below 50°. Some Calatheas and Aglaonemas are also outside, although they're in pots, but they also state not below 50°, and they were out many nights in the upper 30's and low 40's. The Aglaonemas even the 32 degree nights. All these plants are in spots that are north wind protected, areas under the cover of trees, most get East sun exposure to warm them up in the morning. No direct sun.

Hope this helps, my zone is a hard one, since we can drop pretty low some winter nights, I don't think you ever go below freezing there. Some plants though won't do well with too many nights below 50°, after experimenting I know which plants after at least one or two winters can tolerate colder temps, and which plants can't, especially plants I lost to cold. Crying
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Mar 11, 2021 8:23 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Think I will be on the lookout for a Birkin now.

I have found the Monstera deliciosa is root hardy even if the foliage does get fried. They were quite hardy in SC even during the year we had a freaky ice storm, they popped right back out.

Aglaonemas are another story for me, I can't keep one of those alive even during mild winters.
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Mar 11, 2021 10:13 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Central Florida (Zone 9b)
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Alice I put the Aglaonemas outside after they started looking bad on my porch, they took off outside in my shade garden, I thought I might lose them this winter, since we had some really cold temps, but didn't. Good to know about Monstera deliciosa.

@ScotTi Do you have Birkin? If so where'd you find it?
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Mar 11, 2021 5:55 PM CST
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Tampa FL
Thanks @Gina!
I saw about a dozen at my local Home Depot last week. They had them on a display inside the store going for 18.99. I did not purchase one as it was a first time in seeing one and had no idea of its likes and dislikes.
Costa Farms was the grower of the Birkin.
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Mar 11, 2021 5:57 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Yes they are also supposed to be marketing Monstera deliciosa variegata at some point in this Tropical Trends marketing scheme. Can you believe how many people will be sorry they paid like $1000 for one LOL
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Mar 14, 2021 7:29 AM CST
Name: Sherri
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Scott, I saw some six inch pots of P. Birkin this weekend at a plant nursery, they wanted $39.99 for them, so I guess nineteen is a good deal Shrug! . I passed, they didn't look near as nice as the photo you posted. My local Home Depot doesn't have anything like that.

Gina, that's crazy. These Variegated Alocasia Elephant Ear Plants are at Lukas nursery right now, they're $199.00. Seniors get 10% off on Wednesdays LOL.
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I went to the Leu Gardens annual plant sale yesterday, since I'm a member I can get in an hour early. I've never see so many people lined up at 8AM to get into there. Seemed to be less vendors this year. I didn't get much, some Tillandsias from the Tropiflora booth and Bromeliad Society booth. Two native Blanketflower plants, and some Caladium bulbs. Prices were a lot higher than the local nurseries and garden centers here, but people were filling their wagons full of plants.
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Mar 14, 2021 11:01 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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$199 for variegated alocasia macro? That's just silly. Home Depot has big pots every year for $25
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Mar 14, 2021 4:25 PM CST
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Tampa FL
Sherri, I have talked myself out of purchasing P. Birkin. I really like the look it has.
I keep telling myself " You do not need it." 😂
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Mar 14, 2021 5:13 PM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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NOOOOOOOOO
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Mar 15, 2021 6:13 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Central Florida (Zone 9b)
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Gina1960 said:$199 for variegated alocasia macro? That's just silly. Home Depot has big pots every year for $25


You all have good Home Depots, mine never has what you're finding.
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Mar 15, 2021 6:13 AM CST
Name: Gina
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Lowes has them as well
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