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Aug 20, 2021 10:47 AM CST
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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
My neighbor has this beautiful plant.
He said he got it from brecks 25 years ago and doesnt know the name. It's in bloom in NY since late July and its already well past its prime. It grows in a low bush, about 2 ft tall
Any ideas?
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Aug 20, 2021 11:01 AM CST
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Aug 20, 2021 11:03 AM CST
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Reminds me of a milkweed
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Aug 20, 2021 8:01 PM CST
Name: Rj
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Yep, Butterfly Weed (Asclepias tuberosa )
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Aug 20, 2021 8:08 PM CST

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Asclepias tuberosa, milkweed
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Aug 22, 2021 5:53 PM CST
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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
yes, you are right,

the pictures don't do it justice. it almost glows orange-it's like a plant sunset- reminds me of a tiny glowing orange hydrangea, lol

i've learned from reliable sources (.gov and .edu agricultural extensions- not blogs) it's possible to root cuttings relatively easily in soil. less reliable sources claim water rooting of this species of milkweed, but not others, is also possible.

seeds need cold stratification and germinate quite late, requiring warm soil and dark. (1/4 planting depth) i've probably ripped out hundreds as I weed reliably between mother's day and mid-June when I'm on my warm weather high.

if you don't have one of these, I highly recommend it. beautiful, self contained, long lived, long and late flowing, they start with echinacea, but blooms longer and the blooms don't dull, so it will take you through to mums. as the name suggests, a highly preferential Monarch butterfly station for adult feeding, egg laying and larvae.
it's not invasive and doesn't spread. growth habits are very similar to salvia, only a little neater, as it stays upright and the flowers are more compact, maybe like a perennial blooming sedum, with a slightly wider spread and with leaves that resemble goldenrod
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Aug 22, 2021 7:03 PM CST
Name: Jennifer
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I now have to be vigilant about cutting off the pods before they pop. This beautiful beast has taken over certain parts of my flower beds. Once established it is almost impossible to dig out. I'm way less enthralled with this plant now.
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Aug 22, 2021 8:08 PM CST
Name: Rj
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If it finds its happy spot it will go crazy, they are easy to pull when young. Beautiful flowers, great for the Monarchs.
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Aug 22, 2021 8:45 PM CST
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Name: Paula Benyei
NYC suburbs (Zone 6b)
thank you Jennifer, I love first hand information.

do you think yours spreads from seed? or does it spread like rudbeckia or loosestrife, that will choke out everything by spreading roots?

i've watched this plant for years and it's stayed in its lane. is your experience different? we live on a street with houses on one side and a woods and field on the other... i've admired this plant for years, it's never made babies or spread in his yard, nor has it turned up with the weeds across the st. i'm pretty confident it's not choking you by runners, and only by seed( i'm not sure if that's a question or statement, but you're reply will help me decide. ) I live in a city environment and it's very possible Mr. Piece cuts his to the ground before the seeds mature? he maintains a pristine yard... it's a very Italian grandpa NYC where hedges are clipped at 1960 level square and the path is multi colored slate... he dead heads everything before it turns brown...
he likes a much more rigorously defined garden than my English county style, and he's way more disciplined than I, so i'm very interested in your input
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Aug 23, 2021 3:58 AM CST
Name: Jennifer
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They certainly spread via seed. Also I am not aware of any Rudbeckia that spread by runner roots. Another prolific reseeder. However they are easy to pull at any age.
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Aug 23, 2021 4:07 AM CST
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jvdubb said:They certainly spread via seed. Also I am not aware of any Rudbeckia that spread by runner roots. Another prolific reseeder. However they are easy to pull at any age.


Rudbeckia 'Goldsturm' spreads by rhizomes and can take over a flower bed. I love it but it has no consideration for other less competitive plants near it.
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Aug 23, 2021 6:18 AM CST
Name: Jennifer
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Ah ha. I have never grown that Rudbeckia. Glad it never appealed to me.
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