Please can you stick with one plant per thread in future.
Sorry but ferns are really hard.
Ferns from pics even harder!
Need an expert.
Are they ferns found growing wild OR ferns in a garden?
Accurate id is best done from the sori/spores on the back.
Different ferns have different patterns in the dots.
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Shape/habit/size all play a part in id as well.
Seeing a frond laid flat on a table does not really give enough clues to shape...is it an upright fern or one that flops over.
etc etc etc.
I would struggle to id the terrible Engish bracken if photographed like this.
Sorry I cannot help.
Below is Dryopteris sieboldii.
This is the scaly male fern Dryopteris affinis.
FERNS ARE HARD!