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May 27, 2022 6:08 PM CST
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Michigan- Lower Peninsula (Zone 6a)
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Hello,

I recently purchased some cuttings of different Orbeas and they are turning black all along the side. One of them has grown roots and the other has not. I was wondering if there was any way to save the little guys and grow them into healthy plants?
I am a new gardener and have purchased a lot of young unique plants.
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May 27, 2022 6:10 PM CST
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Is there any chance you can share a picture?

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May 27, 2022 8:22 PM CST
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I see the pictures now. I see what you mean. It looks like microorganisms of some sort have taken hold there. This happens sometimes when I'm rooting cuttings. If the discolored area feels soft to the touch, or the cutting feels really deflated overall, you probably should toss it. Otherwise continue to observe and provide good care. If they manage to root and start growing, they will generate healthy new growth, and this may just end up a scar at the bottom.

Speaking of care, this is what I would recommend. I'm assuming these are indoor plants. Strong light is important. These cuttings should be in a place where they can "see" the sun for hours a day with no curtain or blinds in the way. Up in the northlands that would usually mean a southerly orientation, at least during the darker months. The more natural light, the better indoors. Water well when the soil is dry at depth, which might take a week or two at this time of year if it's warm and bright.

There is generally a sort of race between rot and rooting, to see which will happen first with succulent cuttings. You can bias the conditions to favor rooting (strong light, a good watering cycle where the soil does not stay moist) but a lot of cuttings will eventually rot out if they go long enough without roots. Or at least that's how they fail when they don't make it. Just remember that the water in the soil can only leave through evaporation up until such time as there are functional roots.

I would not expect 100% success in rooting cuttings in that genus, but some plants are easier than others, and you may just be learning which ones are trickier.
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May 28, 2022 8:03 AM CST
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The dummerii has roots and the Schewefurtheri does not. How long before I know that its time to cut my losses and toss? If I end up buying another cutting is there a way I can prevent this from happening again?Is there any way to kill the micro organisms?? I bought grow lights since I live in MI and our weather is very unpredictable.

Thank you
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May 28, 2022 8:27 AM CST
Name: Ursula
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If I may add to this excellent advise -
perhaps dipping the cutting in Rootone Rooting powder prior to potting, and also not burying the pieces too deeply might help. Most Stapeliads produce roots also along the growth where in contact with the soil, not only at the bottom. Meaning, I would lay them more sideways and then add just a bit of soil.
And yes, chilly and wet is a usually the death knell...
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May 28, 2022 9:01 AM CST
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@Ursula I did notice that the one with roots had them on the side... I was not sure if that meant I did something wrong but I was not not going to be choosy at this point. Thank you!
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May 28, 2022 9:03 AM CST
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Thumbelina said:How long before I know that its time to cut my losses and toss?


The rooting process normally takes a few weeks (less than 2 months), but I wouldn't throw anything out unless/until it goes soft or shrivels up.
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May 28, 2022 10:25 AM CST
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Thank you @Baja_Costero so I still have some time! I have had these for about 3 weeks. So hopefully I can salvage.
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