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Aug 24, 2022 1:52 PM CST
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What would make the best peach or apricot landscape/shrub rose: Crown Princess Margareta, Marianne, Jude the obscurer, grace; soul sisters, lady Gardner, mademoiselle Franzuska Krueger, South Hampton, Sisters at heart, comte dd champagne, scentstation, Emily Bronte, Ambridge, beautiful day, over the moon, Desiree, oh happy day, state of grace, apricot and cream, apricot nectar, memories, Sunset celebration, sweet dream, Gentle persuasion, or generous gardener?
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Aug 24, 2022 5:55 PM CST
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
Apricot nectar is beautiful here. The generous gardener Is a climber in my climate. I might look at Rouald Dahl.
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Aug 25, 2022 3:28 PM CST
PNW (Zone 8b)
How tall do you want them to be? Apricot Nectar repeats fast, has some BS, and can grow up to five feet tall. If you want something shorter, Cream Veranda is highly recommended. About 2'HX3'W, very healthy, fading from apricot to light pink and often blooming in clusters. Mine still puts on a show every 4-6 weeks even though it's in part shade.
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Aug 25, 2022 3:37 PM CST
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That is gorgeous, I love cream veranda but am looking for 3-4ft something not orangey or reddish buy changes as it ages maybe(apricot/peach/cream/pink) or just staying a nice color.
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Aug 25, 2022 4:26 PM CST
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I found Peach profusion, but in some pictures they look more pink
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Aug 25, 2022 4:36 PM CST
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I found Peach profusion, but in some pictures they look Thank You! gg r gth Gmail I go gi gi go TV cuo Co FL I no di so cup f ft ud do 0 xp d 405am 4
more pink
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Aug 25, 2022 4:52 PM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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What the heck?
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Aug 25, 2022 4:54 PM CST
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Disregard

I have found a rose called peach profusion and the color looks beautiful however in a lot of the pictures it looks more pink than anything so I'm not too sure about that 1am not sure about that rose
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Aug 25, 2022 5:15 PM CST
PNW (Zone 8b)
Height can vary greatly depending on climate and planting culture. In the coastal Pacific Northwest, many roses grow taller than the label describes. My neighbor's Jude the Obscure is a large 8'X6' shrub, while my Eifelzauber is almost a 10' climber (of course I've cut it in half). That's why I always have roses that need to be moved every year. It would be very helpful to talk to local growers if possible, otherwise you can only know after you plant them. Good luck.
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Aug 25, 2022 5:19 PM CST
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Appreciated
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Aug 25, 2022 8:42 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
I vote for Apricot Nectar. Excellent re-bloom, keeps its pale apricot color throughout, and doesn't get more than 3' for me. But I keep my two at 3' by pruning. To me, it's one of my perfect roses, plus it has a lovely fragrance.
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Aug 25, 2022 8:51 PM CST
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I do like that rose, apricot n cream as well although it seems like the apricotnectar has a slightly more colorful bud.
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Aug 25, 2022 8:54 PM CST
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Does it have a nice hedge shape?
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Aug 26, 2022 8:43 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
I don't know what you mean by a "hedge shape" for a rose. When I think of hedges, I think of landscape hedges that are pruned to be like boxes, or big rounded mounds. I don't have any roses like that.
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Aug 26, 2022 10:01 PM CST
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More shrub looking and compact compared to sprawling.
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Aug 27, 2022 8:41 PM CST
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
Well, since I said that I keep my two Apricot Nectars to 3' by pruning, they aren't sprawling.
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Aug 29, 2022 7:04 PM CST
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Those of you that have planted apricotnectar rose in nj/6b, how tall does it reach?
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Aug 30, 2022 8:39 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
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You should be able to rely on the dimensions cited in our database since you live in a cold zone where most roses need to be significantly pruned after a long winter of sustained temperatures well below freezing. Our members have gone to great efforts to create this invaluable resource, so by all means, take advantage of it. If you have doubts about a particular rose's description in our database, or want a second opinion, you can cross-reference our listings with those on the HelpMeFind website.

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Aug 30, 2022 9:02 AM CST
Name: Mike Stewart
Lower Hudson Valley, New York (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Photo Contest Winner 2020 Garden Photography Roses Bulbs Peonies
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Dog Lover Cat Lover Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: New York
There's an additional resource some folks find interesting, which is the American Rose Society's Handbook For Selecting Roses. It provides overall "garden ratings" of more than 3,000 cultivars. The ratings are based on the Society's annual Roses In Review survey, and the 2022 edition can be purchased for $10 here:

https://www.rose.org/product-p...

It's short on descriptive information, but the numeric ratings might be interesting to compare if one is trying to decide among different cultivars. These are based on national averages, but you can sometimes download a subset of survey results for a particular geographic location from the regional ARS district societies, such as the Penn-Jersey annual survey results here:

https://pennjerseydistrict.org...

Unfortunately, I suspect participation in the survey may have waned over the years (I don't know that to be the case, but I wouldn't be surprised). There are two reasons that come to mind:

One is that the benefits of memberships in organizations like ARS may not seem as valuable as they once were, now that the Internet (and organizations like NGA!) have made information and advice so freely available, and forums like this one provide a sense of community and a place to exchange information that is easier than periodically attending district meetings. I admit that I let my own ARS membership lapse years ago, and it has been years since I attended the annual convention.

The other reason I suspect participation in the survey may have decreased over time is that not as many gardeners grow hybrid teas, floribundas, grandifloras, old garden roses, polyanthas, centifolias, Buck shrubs, miniatures, etc., as they used to. Many gardeners simply aren't sufficiently interested or willing to grow roses, and many of those that are have turned to Knockouts as an easier substitute for traditional roses. But there is still a committed group of rosarians who complete the ARS survey each year.

ARS published its first survey of modern roses in 1930, and their Modern Rose database is now home to more than 37,000 registered roses. Access to the database is available to anyone through an annual subscription and is an ARS member benefit. Some may find it a useful resource above and beyond our own database and that of HelpMeFind, which are free.
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Aug 31, 2022 10:32 PM CST
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I've read some negative reviews regarding Peach profusion rose(blackspot and shape of flowers), does anybody think it's a good rose?

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