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Aug 31, 2022 8:18 PM CST
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Sacramento Valley (Zone 9b)
These are popping up on lots of my plants. Always on the tops of leaves, tops of buds, petals, etc. They kind of look like a drop of paint, or wax. They scrape off easy with my fingernail.

Pretty certain that it's not a wilt or fungus since it scrapes off. I don't think the spots are alive...they look a little like poop but are stuck on to the leaves rather than loose pellets. Any ideas?
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Aug 31, 2022 9:02 PM CST
Name: James
North Louisiana (Zone 8b)
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think its frass - excrement from wood-eating pests like - caterpillars, termites or carpenter ants

try to catch or see what is doing it (may only happen at night)....what it is, will help to determine what to do next ....

from your 2nd picture ...inclined to think carpenter ants may be the culprit ...because of the 2 holes in the leaf
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Sep 1, 2022 10:10 PM CST
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Sacramento Valley (Zone 9b)
Thanks. I've been looking pretty hard, both day and in the evenings. I haven't seen anything, I will try taking a look at night. If they're wood eating, what are they doing on plants? I do have wood borders, not quite boxes but 2x6 borders.
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Sep 1, 2022 10:21 PM CST
Name: Bea
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Try putting a clear bag over it at night with a lamp on . Usually the light will attract the insects. Holes in the leaf are signs of a slug or other insect eating the leafs. Clean off the remnants left behind with a Q-Tip dipped in alcohol.
Or use a granular systemic to sprinkle on the top soil. Each time the plant is watered it Will retain and absorb the systemic to eliminate soil insects or flying insects that feed on the plant.
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Sep 7, 2022 8:50 PM CST
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Sacramento Valley (Zone 9b)
I went out this evening and found the culprit. Flies. Hundreds, maybe thousands of them. So many that it sounded like a swarm of bees. They look and sound like houseflies. Some plants are completely covered. What kind of flies are they? Can I nuke them with soap or something?

My phone takes lousy pictures in twilight, this is the best I could do.
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Sep 8, 2022 7:40 AM CST
Name: James
North Louisiana (Zone 8b)
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never read, seen or have heard of anything like it ....

soap wont work ...as it works on *soft-bodied* insects .... glue traps might be effective

call or visit your local USDA Extension Service for advice ....

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Sep 8, 2022 8:14 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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There is another possibility. Juices from the plant, honeydew, turns black due to a fungus. The flies are there to lap up the sugar laden substance. Those appear to be house flies and they do not eat plants. Their mouthparts essentially are similar to sponges. They lick or lap up their food.
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Sep 9, 2022 12:47 AM CST
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Sacramento Valley (Zone 9b)
Oh, duh, flytraps. Why don't I think of the obvious solutions. I'm getting flytraps tomorrow.
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