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Dec 13, 2022 11:32 AM CST
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Located in MN, and I'm starting Tree Farm, and going with 15# grow bags (18" x 14.5") and each of the following I'd be starting with 1-2 year old seedlings, abut 10"-12" high each. If I water well, fertilize, and keep weeds down, can these trees make it to 6' tall in about 3-4 years?

- White Spruce
- Autumn Blaze Maple
- Thuja Green Giant
- Flowering White Dogwood
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Dec 15, 2022 11:02 AM CST
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I'm unsure growth wise, but it's not recommended to fertilize trees in the first two years after planting. You want them to grow a deep and expansive root system and fertilizing will promote top growth (think leaves and whatnot) while sacrificing that good root system you want.

Especially with a 'Green Giant.' They can get 50-60 feet tall; you wouldn't want a weaker root system causing that to fall down one day. Blinking
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Dec 18, 2022 7:13 PM CST
Name: Lee-Roy
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This is question nr° I-don't-know-how regarding your ambitions. You are asking questions that you should ask to professionals; or atleast get some first hand experience working for one and learn the trade.

Also, I get the impression that you don't really take the advice given to you and only accept what you want to hear since I noticed (my) comments being removed...
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Dec 18, 2022 7:26 PM CST
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If your comments were removed, I don't believe that means it was the OP that did it (this site doesn't work like facebook in that sense).
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Dec 18, 2022 9:34 PM CST
Name: John
Pomona/Riverside CA (Zone 9a)
I'm guessing the Maple and Thuja might get that big, but I'm not sure the others would. I don't live where the others do well so I have no experience with them.
Since this is a nursery situation the fertilizing program is routine. FWIW I feed new trees anyway and do minor pruning to balance top to roots. I use a bloom food to help.
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Dec 21, 2022 4:39 AM CST
Name: Al F.
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@j_kraut FWIW, how fast your trees grow depends on 2 things. 1) Their natural vigor, which is a genetic trait. 2) Their vitality (health), which depends on the cultural hand you deal them because it's a measure of their ability to deal with that hand.

Let's say that every cultural factor affecting your plants' growth can be reflected on a scale of 1-10, and 5 represents the sweet spot for every factor. Ideally, you're able to keep every factor at level 5, and maybe 4-6 is still quite acceptable. It's when any cultural factor creeps toward the limit of what the plants are genetically programmed to tolerate that you start to see unwanted obstacles to growth rate, vitality levels, appearance, the plant's ability to defend itself, ... . So, choose what plants you grow based on how close you can come to satisfying their cultural needs. Plants with a higher level of genetic vigor are called vigorous because they are capable of dealing with a wider range of stress than plants with less natural vigor.

As you can see from Liebig's Barrel below, it only takes a single cultural factor being close to what the plant is programmed to tolerate to throw a monkey wrench into your 3-4 year plan. The barrel says the plant is suffering from a nitrogen deficiency ...... and nothing can fix that, no matter how perfect all other cultural conditions are, except increasing the supply of nitrogen. Not better light or more/less water, or changing to a better grow medium. Once the N deficiency is fixed, it looks like perhaps temperature or boron will need to be fixed. It's always the most deficient cultural factor that limits growth.
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