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Jan 22, 2023 10:36 PM CST
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Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner 2019
This back garden and lawn belong to a used brick home built in 1956. It was the third home completed in a brand new housing addition in northwest Oklahoma City. The brick wall topped with wrought iron, the brick mowstrip and the brick patio visible in a later photo were in place by 1958. Once they were completed an extensive and clearly expensive landscape was planted. When it was finished the garden contained a 'Moraine' Honeylocust, a Crabapple, three eating Apples, Crape Myrtles, an East Palatkan Holly, some Nandina, Barberries, Dwarf Chinese Holly, Pyracantha, Photinia… and even more.
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By February, 2002 the garden was in a sad state, and in desperate need of care. The brick wall and the brick mowstrip had several loose or missing brick that were replaced and both had their mortar repaired. The first photo shows a gangly and poorly trained American Smoketree [Cotinus obovata], the second shows English Ivy growing up and over the stump left when the Honeylocust died of vascular wilt and both photos show a white blooming Wisteria growing along the brick wall.
A neighbor had just cut down a multi-trunked River Birch in his backyard [for unknown reasons]… and the trunks became the posts for a wire fence around this portion of the bed. The fence was built 12 inches inside the mowstrip to allow already established clumps of Daffodils to develop. The next two photos show what was completed by March 13
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The admittedly narrow walkway was put in to allow access to the back portions of the bed. It came in handy because a lot of "spring greens" seed was sown and onions were planted. By April 13 the Daffodils were blooming and the first lettuce leaves were being harvested for salads.
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'White Icicle' Radishes
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'Little Gem' Romaine
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'Mervailles des Quatre Saissons'

At about this time a large section of the lawn was killed to allow the creation of another bed for vegetables. As soon as the grass was satisfactorily eliminated a brick mowstrip was installed.
By early summer the "lawn bed" was busy growing tomatoes, squash, sunflowers, borage, basil, oregano and a few other herbs.
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The best place to see the sunset and watch the garden was from the old chair under the Chinese Pistache. Experienced chair users would bring a heavily padded seat cushion with them.
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Within five years the Honeylocust stump had rotted to the extent it was easily removed. At that point it was decided to convert the area to Roses. Graham Thomas, Pat Austin, Hot Cocoa, Tuscan Sun and Lady of Shalott were planted. They were followed by pots of 'Faassen's' Catmint. Within another two years the "rose bed" was lush and colorful.
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Jan 22, 2023 11:05 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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It must be satisfying to have such a good photographic journal of the garden's evolution. The last two photos illustrate a lovely cottage garden. I'm especially smitten by the bentwood chair in the photo above them!
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Jan 23, 2023 1:55 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner 2019
Thanks... It's nice to hear comments... and I appreciate yours. The nicest thing about being a member of this club is reading responses from other members. And you probably know as well that responses are few and far apart. I'm not being critical... I need to write more responses myself.
I only know one thing about Albuquerque... learned on a drive from Okla. City to Tucson. That one thing... there is [or was] a wonderful restaurant in a 300 year old building JUST behind the cathedral in the old town. They had a dish called Polla Adobado [I hope I got that right!] that was incredibly good.
I was lucky enough to visit The Lightning Field, by Walter de Maria, east of Quemado, NM. Ever been there? Other worldly.
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Well, I'm digressing from gardening way too much.
Thanks again.
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Jan 23, 2023 2:38 AM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
Bee Lover Salvias Region: New Mexico Herbs Container Gardener Composter
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I'm guessing that was pollo adobado (adobe chicken) at the Church Street Cafe in Old Town. Popular place.

I haven't been to the lightning field. Looks like a good idea for an overnight road trip when the weather warms; like so many NM attractions, it's just a little too much of a drive for one day round trip for me. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Jan 23, 2023 6:21 AM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
jathton said: Thanks... It's nice to hear comments... and I appreciate yours. The nicest thing about being a member of this club is reading responses from other members. And you probably know as well that responses are few and far apart. I'm not being critical...


Not critical at all.

I am afraid your threads and comments are buried behind your lovely photos. Many probably haven't discovered them.

I have enjoyed all the photos and posts you have made. Your knowledge and skills are far above my level. I am always willing to absorb more knowledge.

I found the shape of the lawn bed was most interesting. Was there a reason to use that shape?
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Jan 23, 2023 4:51 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner 2019
For those reading this forum entry.......................

'The Church Street Cafe' YES, that is it!!! and Pollo Adobado YES, that's it!!! Still open? Still good? Ymmmmmmm !

The Lightning Field ............... consists of twenty foot tall steel rods, exactly 225 feet apart, that form a grid one kilometer wide and one mile long. During the summer rainy season* the rods attract far more lightning than is normal for the desert floor. The results repeatedly cause standing men to sit down and sitting men to stand up ! *The folks at the Albuquerque branch of the National Weather Service just told me the best chance of being in that valley while it rains is between mid July and mid August. Type "The Lightning Field, by Walter de Maria" into Google and learn lots more.

The shape of the central lawn bed...
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The idea was to create a small lawn area in an intimate, "secluded" area. Within two years plants in the surrounding beds had grown enough to completely enclose area A. The two other lawn areas [B] were intended to be a short transition from the chaos in the main lawn area to a more scluded lawn area. Within two years plant growth had guaranteed lawn area A was a secluded area.
Each of the border segments parallels the adjacent segment in the old border.
I marked one segment with the letter C. In the photo it looks straight... but if you look closely just inside the border... you'll see a thick curved line. That is the shape of that segment... again to parallel the segment in the old border.
When the brick border was first finished it was looked at with question marks. But as time went by it became the perfect shape...
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In this last photo you can see the curve I'm talking about.

I hope that explains it satisfactorily.
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Jan 23, 2023 6:40 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
Bee Lover Salvias Region: New Mexico Herbs Container Gardener Composter
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Beautiful outcome, John.
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Jan 23, 2023 9:33 PM CST
Name: Kristi
east Texas pineywoods (Zone 8a)
Herbs Region: Texas Vegetable Grower Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Level 2
That does make sense, thank you. And I do like the end result.
Believe in yourself even when no one else will. ~ Sasquatch
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Feb 9, 2023 7:29 AM CST
Name: Terri
Lucketts, VA (Zone 7a)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Virginia Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Deer Ponds
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Nice! So interesting to see the progression from pre-renovation, to initial renovation bones, to planting maturity.

I've always been fascinated by the design aspect of gardening, and I think the creativeness of it is my favorite part of gardening in general. I read your profile and see that you have had education and a career in it. What a dream that would be, especially for me. I have not had any formal training but I've spent over 30 years designing my own gardens at my home Aspen Hill in the woods of Northern VA. All trial and error and constantly evolving.

I would love to see more of your projects with photos and descriptions. I stumbled on this thread this morning and will have to go in search of more!
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Feb 10, 2023 3:39 AM CST

Great job.
Soft lines, good flow, low profile, intelligent planting, relaxed view, and all framed up in borrowed landscape.
Congratulations on the outcome.
John
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Feb 10, 2023 4:07 AM CST

aspenhill said: Nice! So interesting to see the progression from pre-renovation, to initial renovation bones, to planting maturity.

I've always been fascinated by the design aspect of gardening, and I think the creativeness of it is my favorite part of gardening in general. I read your profile and see that you have had education and a career in it. What a dream that would be, especially for me. I have not had any formal training but I've spent over 30 years designing my own gardens at my home Aspen Hill in the woods of Northern VA. All trial and error and constantly evolving.

I would love to see more of your projects with photos and descriptions. I stumbled on this thread this morning and will have to go in search of more!


Sounds like a wonderful place to live and learn about landscape. Long may you enjoy the fruits of your labour's,
John
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Mar 17, 2023 10:28 AM CST
Name: Peggy
Temple, TX (Zone 8b)
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Man, do I have garden envy right now, @jathton.
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Apr 14, 2023 5:27 AM CST

Hi, you did a wonderful job, I love it!
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