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Mar 12, 2023 12:00 PM CST
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Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
A unicorn, I know. The area gets decent AM sun but soon that will be a bit filtered as the trees fill in. Would prefer evergreen, but the only ones that can tolerate some shade seem to be toxic (holly, boxwood). I am going to plant the biggest hostas and ferns I can find, but would love some things that at least look like SOMETHING in winter (i.e., at least some structure if not evergreen leaves).

This is for my tortoise's pen--some things she will eat and love, most she might try and then not be that into, but I cannot risk her trying something that is toxic. Period.

I found out about salal, which would work, but I cannot find any local nurseries that carry it.

If anyone has ideas, I would appreciate it! Pic of new pen with hardscaping done and ready for plants once we are past frost danger. The tree is a Rose of Sharon--Beasley can safely eat the leaves and the flowers.
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Mar 12, 2023 1:00 PM CST
Name: Zoë
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I would work from the opposite direction: research what tortoises of Beasley's species can eat, then look for those—most especially plants native to Beasley's natural habitat that will grow in your climate. Also, "toxic" is a vague term. Some substances poisonous to humans and dogs might not harm reptiles (I don't know this, just suggesting the possibility).
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Mar 12, 2023 1:43 PM CST
Name: John
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I agree
I checked a couple of lists and found fun things like Abelia, Jasmine, Buddleia, Forsythia. All of these can do with a least partial shade.
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Mar 12, 2023 3:02 PM CST
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Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
CPPgardener said: I agree
I checked a couple of lists and found fun things like Abelia, Jasmine, Buddleia, Forsythia. All of these can do with a least partial shade.


Thanks! I checked the database of "safe for tortoises" and Abelia and Forsythia would work. Buddleia is invasive so probably not. I will see what the nursery has!
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Mar 12, 2023 3:03 PM CST
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Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
NMoasis said: I would work from the opposite direction: research what tortoises of Beasley's species can eat, then look for those—most especially plants native to Beasley's natural habitat that will grow in your climate. Also, "toxic" is a vague term. Some substances poisonous to humans and dogs might not harm reptiles (I don't know this, just suggesting the possibility).

Definitely true. I check everything here and if it doesn't come up at least "feed sparingly" and preferably "feed in moderation," I don't plant it. :-)
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Mar 13, 2023 7:25 AM CST
Name: stone
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At my house... One year During the drought, I noticed the gopher tortoises eating yellow cosmos... I thought that was kinda neat... They usually eat grass, but sometimes squash leaves and occasionally a bite of Cnidoscolus stimulosus.... Also neat...
I have video (somewhere) of the tortoise eating horse apples... (poop).

If it was me, I'd totally research what they eat... plant that.

I've got a picture on site of the tortoise with a mouthful of tramp weed...
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Mar 13, 2023 10:15 AM CST
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Hey, I'd forgotten the name of that, I think of it as "hairy weed."

It does make sense to choose shade tolerant plants that one also finds ornamental from a list of plants your interesting pet likes to eat.

I'm not pushing the suggestion but just FYI, most Buddleias sold @ stores should be sterile cultivars, meaning they can't make seeds.
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Mar 13, 2023 9:02 PM CST
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You might also look into Cephalotaxus, the plum yew. Unlike the Yew, this one is not toxic, and even produces edible fruit I think. (I'd have to double check.) But it also takes some shade and is a needled evergreen! So there's an idea maybe. Smiling

Gooseberry relatives also take part shade, offer ornamental and/or edible features, and might be okay for your purpose if the tortoise wouldn't be bothered by thorns. Some types of raspberry could do the same. How about shade-loving huckleberries?

Can you tell I'm thinking about orchard-style plants that might maybe make good fodder as well? I don't know if Lonicera (honeyberry, honeysuckle) would work in that capacity, but that's another idea.

Young Thuja (arborvitae, evergreen) I think can tolerate shade and I'd guess are more edible (not for human tastes) than not. Maples, too! I don't know if hemlocks are in the edible category, but they take more shade than many evergreens. Dogwoods may be worth looking into.

Anyway, such is my brainstorm. Sounds like a fun project! Smiling
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